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Old 05-29-2008, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, NC
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Is it 100% that the northern track will be the next route?
Let's hope not! If it does, I'd rather not have the rail go outside of the I 485 beltway.
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Believe me, having all the rail lines is the way to go in Charlotte. Accelerating the building of them should be mandatory now. Gas is now $4.19 in Portland for unleaded and higher in Calif. its only a matter of time before it is in Charlotte also. However the last thing Charlotte should ever want to be is the next Atlanta.
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:52 PM
 
Location: CLT native
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Peak Oil (global production) has happened (2005), so energy from here on out is only going to be more expensive. Do not take my word for it, look it up.

Personally I live within 485 and commute out of town, all of 7 miles.
I am an 'anti-commuter' by choice.

But I know there are many people outside 485 and commute to downtown CLT everyday - that is starting to be expensive. Light rail would be my choice! And I used to ride the bus from SouthPark to downtown, but that was 15+ years ago...
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:32 PM
 
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I can't wait until the line is extended to UNCC/University. I think that will do a lot to help the area and connect the college with the city (the school is very disconnected). My only complaint is that it doesn't run late enough. Bars close at 2am, so the last train should be at 2 or 2:30 instead of 1am!
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:01 PM
 
Location: The 12th State
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I believe there is a push now to make the University City line the next route. Unfortunatley, even with all the success of the South line, and rising gas prices, there is still some opposition to the North line from the Huntersville city council. So given their "pause" in supporting the line fully, I believe CATS is now looking to move forward with the Northeast line, and even the East/West streetcar line before the North line. Hopefully Huntersville will get its act together, because my understanding is that its quite easy to get that line going because there are already tracks laid.

The problem with getting the North Line started is securing federal funding to help cover over half of the $261 million. Because federal money will be limited — the ridership projections don’t meet federal benchmarks for its significant participation in the financing.
This is why CATS has been pushing the high ridership numbers of the south line to show the demand is there.
It hard to get developers to invest in the area when the line isnt set sure fire when it will happen or occur. Chicken and the egg syndrome.

The above 261 million does not include the cost of the stations which is not covered under the 1/2 cent tax. Huntersville will have the most stations North of Charlotte with three stations at a cost of 10 million per station.
I cant find the latest hold up that Huntersville has but it has to do alot with funding for these stations. The last I remember it has to do with funding projects with a tax base of "future development not built" in the districts that surround the line or stations. In other words borrow money on money that isnt there yet.
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Old 05-30-2008, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC (Charlotte 'burb)
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I can't wait until the line is extended to UNCC/University. I think that will do a lot to help the area and connect the college with the city (the school is very disconnected). My only complaint is that it doesn't run late enough. Bars close at 2am, so the last train should be at 2 or 2:30 instead of 1am!
I agree with all of that...especially since UNCC is building a satellite campus at 9th st uptown.
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Crown Town
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The problem with getting the North Line started is securing federal funding to help cover over half of the $261 million. Because federal money will be limited — the ridership projections don’t meet federal benchmarks for its significant participation in the financing.
This is why CATS has been pushing the high ridership numbers of the south line to show the demand is there.
It hard to get developers to invest in the area when the line isnt set sure fire when it will happen or occur. Chicken and the egg syndrome.

The above 261 million does not include the cost of the stations which is not covered under the 1/2 cent tax. Huntersville will have the most stations North of Charlotte with three stations at a cost of 10 million per station.
I cant find the latest hold up that Huntersville has but it has to do alot with funding for these stations. The last I remember it has to do with funding projects with a tax base of "future development not built" in the districts that surround the line or stations. In other words borrow money on money that isnt there yet.
Here's one article: Huntersville Herald Online (http://www.huntersvilleherald.com/articles/2008/01/04/news/local/local01.txt - broken link)

Engineering for the North Line was approved by the Charlotte City Council just this month, but before anything can definilty be called a "go", the towns in the North will all have to commit to helping with any funding shortfalls that may come. So far, Huntersville is not 100% committed to it. The town may be asked to help build some of the stations there (I think 2 of the 3), and some of the town board members dont' like that idea.
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC (Charlotte 'burb)
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Here's one article: Huntersville Herald Online (http://www.huntersvilleherald.com/articles/2008/01/04/news/local/local01.txt - broken link)

Engineering for the North Line was approved by the Charlotte City Council just this month, but before anything can definilty be called a "go", the towns in the North will all have to commit to helping with any funding shortfalls that may come. So far, Huntersville is not 100% committed to it. The town may be asked to help build some of the stations there (I think 2 of the 3), and some of the town board members dont' like that idea.
But they want to spend millions to widen the interstate or give developers permission to build near the exits and which will bring more interstate traffic. The voters of Huntersville approved the transit tax too...only 2 districts in all of Mecklenburg county did not (the 2nd time around anyway).
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:33 AM
 
Location: The 12th State
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But they want to spend millions to widen the interstate or give developers permission to build near the exits and which will bring more interstate traffic. The voters of Huntersville approved the transit tax too...only 2 districts in all of Mecklenburg county did not (the 2nd time around anyway).
Yes Huntersville voted for the transit tax. That funding is not the issue it is the extra costs that that tax does not cover The tax if I remember correctly only covers 97 million of the projected 261 million in costs and does not include the 30 million it will cost for the stations
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:00 AM
 
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I have to admit that I am now a believer. The ability to save on gas and parking fees is priceless.
Thanks for joining our group. I will be moving to Cornelius on Monday. We can start organizing the demonstrations for rail service. Or maybe not. It's too damn hot.
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