01-05-2011, 05:33 PM
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I am looking for people that currently live in or used to live in River Forest and Oak Park. Why did you move there? Where did you live before?
We are looking for a short commute to the City (loop area) and good schools. We are also looking for a neighborhood/area with young families.
I get why people move to the North Shore (its the NORTH SHORE...) and I think I get the Western burbs (proximity to all expressways...), but I just don't quite get River Forest/Oak Park... Is it the easy commute into the City or is it more than that???
01-06-2011, 08:58 AM
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Not a resident or a person that lives in Oak Park, but I think this could be helpful. I like Oak park and it a very nice burb but the main reason why someone might choose it is because they need access to both the western burbs and the city itself.The area is racially diverse and sort of has some night life(not in Oak park itself but in Forrest Park nearby). It also has good schools.
Oak park is sort of an a happy medium between needs that can be hard to reconcile. i.e. Good schools and access to the city via driving.Or access to more hip areas of the city on the weekend without being far away from work in the western burbs. Or having an urban experience when living in the city itself is not practical.
Another reason to choose it is if you need to work in the western burbs but want a bit more nightlife. However Napervile has some nightlife.
If you are working in the loop odds are you wont be driving there. Many burbs have Metra service which can quickly get you to and from work in the loop. Unless you need to drive to work in your car a short commute to the loop probably isn't a good reason to choose Oak park or River Forrest(Although it is a very short commute. You can get to/from the loop in about 15 mins via Metra. Green line 20-30min. Driving would be 30-40mins from the loop in rush, 15-20 non rush. ).
Other burbs with good schools and larger houses/lawns for the money have metra commutes under an hour.
Oak park has both Metra and CTA EL service via the green line to downtown as well as nearby CTA 24 hour blue line service in Forrest Park.
What age are your Children? Some of Chicago's public grade schools are ok. It is more the High schools that are a big problem.
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01-06-2011, 09:13 AM
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Thanks, that really helps. My husband currently has approx. 1 hr. 20 minute commute door to door from Lake forest. He takes the Metra (40-50min) and then 15-20 minute walk/bus to his office on Michigan. We love the feel of the Northern Suburbs, but most of the affordable ones are just too far. Evanston is the closest, but that would still be about 45 min to an hour commute (25 minute Metra and 15-20 minute walk). I am also thinking about going back to work and can't imagine that kind of commute.
We have 3 children who are 3, 5, and 8. We really need good elementary and middle schools (we will worry about high school later), that is why River Forest was appealing. It satisfies two important criteria - commute time and schools.
You mentioned a fun atmosphere or night life...were you referring to proximity to the City or Forest Park (or both)?
01-06-2011, 09:40 AM
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Oak park would cut the commute. However if you are working on Michgan it would probably be better to use the Green or Blue line they would take you closer to Michigan. Metra could get you there in 15 mins but yout would still have to bus/walk the same 15/20 mins.
The nightlife I mentioned is mostly forrest park but getting to Chicago's northside, river north, and west loop areas from Oak park is not a bad weekend commute.
However you are going to have a tough time cutting the commute under 30-45 mins total.
The areas in chicago with good schools would take you about 30-45 mins total to commute also.
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01-06-2011, 09:49 AM
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We moved from Boston to Chicagoland for my job in the western suburbs. OP was as close as we could get to the city without having a totally intolerable commute. I could live further out with a shorter commute and a larger house, so for us, it was totally a lifestyle decision.
01-06-2011, 10:10 AM
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Easy commute and access to Chicago played a huge role in our move here. So many other reasons too including diversity, the lack of keeping up with the Jones attitude, the general vibe and the people. People who live here made the decision to raise their families in a more urban setting.
01-06-2011, 10:34 AM
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I'd spend a night out in Forest Park before deeming it real "nightlife." It's not like the city. I agree with the above posters that proximity to the Loop is good, though certainly further to Michigan Avenue. IMHO, getting to the north side of the city (e.g., Lincoln Park) to go to restaurants and hang out is not as easy as it seems... can be a good 45 minutes when all is said and done. The great driving times from OP or RF are really into the Loop in my view.
01-07-2011, 05:04 AM
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I use to travel from Oak Park to Andersonville once a week @ 6:30 p.m., and I would always make it in 30 minutes. In terms of getting to various city neighborhoods, it feels like an extension of the city. OP/RF are great for both city and west suburban access. My bottom line is I feel more a part of the city than were I to live in a further out suburb...popping into the city on a Saturday whim is much more likely to occur from Oak Park than from LaGrange (though I love LaGrange too and could easily live there). RF schools are great. Nightlife is less an issue for the over 30 w/ young kids crowd...you can quickly and easily get to any and all cultural and night life options - Lyric, symphony, House of Blues, art in pilsen, shopping in Oak Brook, or Caffe de Luca in Forest Park....if at 30-sumpin' you need to hang out on Rush street or Division to pick up trash then time to make an appt w/ Dr. Phil ...so there you go
01-07-2011, 08:25 AM
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absolutely true - The city is definitely very reachable from OP. I guess the important distinction I'd make for someone considering OP or RF from the outside is that while yes, the city is certainly more accessible from, say, Naperville, and yes you can get to Andersonville from here easier than you can from further out, the reality is that you need to realize that there is still some effort in deciding to go into the city -- as opposed to considering what's available for nightlife, shopping, etc. within a 10-15 minute reasonable drive. Definitely it's a huge plus that you can do all this city stuff if you wish - my only point is that I do think people considering this area can be deluded into thinking that it's all at one's fingertips -- and it's not, especially if you have young kids... it's just not so easy to get in the car and go all these places -- therefore, at least I've personally found, it's important to be acutely aware of what is or isn't in the immediate vicinity or region.
01-08-2011, 09:39 AM
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I am looking for people that currently live in or used to live in River Forest and Oak Park. Why did you move there? Where did you live before?
We are looking for a short commute to the City (loop area) and good schools. We are also looking for a neighborhood/area with young families.
I get why people move to the North Shore (its the NORTH SHORE...) and I think I get the Western burbs (proximity to all expressways...), but I just don't quite get River Forest/Oak Park... Is it the easy commute into the City or is it more than that???
Yes. And so much more.
Oak Park/River Forest has everything that the north shore communities have, but at a BIG discount, and without the attitude.
After all, you said (it is the NORTH SHORE). So what??? Who cares
So many of the west suburbs are just as great, but like I said without the attitude.
In addition to being close to downtown. The area has BEAUTIFUL housing stock, great neighborhoods, great walkable downtown. Stuff for kids to do. Some nightlife/date places for singles in Oak Park and Forest Park. Some forest preserve along the Des Plaines for a nature fix. Not only access to downtown but equal access to the I-88 corridor if you work in Oak Brook, etc. Need more??
The area is what Evanston is on the north side, the Oak Park/River Forest area is on the west.
Also the area, has a thriving African American middle to upper middle class population. Something I like. I always felt slightly creeped out by the lack of upper middle class African Americans in the north shore/north suburbs.
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People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)