multicultural Chicago?

[Irishtom29]

Originally Posted by west lawn kid

Birds of a feather flock together, you can change the culture but you can't change human nature, and there's nothing wrong with that.

We ain't birds WL. And while it may be human nature for some people to stick in groups it's just as much a part of human nature for other people to spread around.

[west lawn kid]

Originally Posted by Irishtom29

We ain't birds WL. And while it may be human nature for some people to stick in groups it's just as much a part of human nature for other people to spread around.

yea, but you can't force them to

[Intergalactic]

Originally Posted by Irishtom29

We ain't birds WL. And while it may be human nature for some people to stick in groups it's just as much a part of human nature for other people to spread around.

Actually, it is part of human nature to breed outside our tribe or clan, it's called exogamy:
Exogamy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Damage Control Freak]

Originally Posted by PokerPlayer1

In short, you can't drum-circle your way out of human nature. Chicago isn't "integrated" because that's what the residents have largely chosen.

Racial or any other segregation isn't part of human nature. never has been, never will. And it all doesn't have to do to do too much with choice, I doubt many people "choose" to live in Engelwood or Austin cause like they love hanging out with crack whores and gang bangers.

[ajolotl]

People are often unaware of how similar they really are to other people who appear superficially different.

[Irishtom29]

Originally Posted by Damage Control Freak

Racial or any other segregation isn't part of human nature. never has been, never will.

Oh, I think it's most certainly a PART of human nature. Otherwise it wouldn't happen. And to integrate and "mix it up", that's part of human nature too, otherwise that wouldn't happen either.

[tigerboy]

Originally Posted by PokerPlayer1

This "integration" ideal that's about 50 or so years old (or so) doesn't suddenly negate 6000 years of history and some of the basest human instincts.

In the context of history, ideals are vogues; profoundly relevant to contemporaries, but often times a bit of a joke in hindsight. As unimaginable as it seems right now- as we're all collectively frozen beneath the glacier of political correctness and the sacred cow "integration ideal" which itself is so mindlessly and endlessly promoted it borders on being a mass delusion- it is indeed entirely possible that humanity will look back on this period that we're in right now and snicker, just as we do about bizarre cultural ethoses our forefathers were convinced would eventually go on to change the world but inevitably, wound up a footnote in the books, brushed aside by the fundamental, inescapable nature of man.

In short, you can't drum-circle your way out of human nature. Chicago isn't "integrated" because that's what the residents have largely chosen.

Eschatology is the study of end things in essence. What you are saying is that eschatological currents run deep but have always foundered on the reality that history is in flux and circular rather than linear. In doing so you are essentially correct. We are not "going anywhere" here. We have a nature which is immutable. At once we are attracted to the outsider ( EG I a white European am attracted to Korean/Japanese ) and we are repelled and feraful of the outsider.

Personally I would welcome more integration but it may well be that in a century we hve not seeen as much of it as we now believe we will and Chicago is not alone. I have spent years in London and Paris, two vast world cities, and integration there is nowhere near asadvanced as some - notably Londons former mayor - would have us believe.