2020 Election: Is illinois really a Blue state? (Chicago, Vermont: college, live in)

[WestSideMillennial]

The title asks it all...?

[glass_of_merlot]

No.
Chicago is.

[Curly Q. Bobalink]

Originally Posted by glass_of_merlot

No.
Chicago is.

Fifteen years ago I would have agreed to your statement but expanded it to say "No. Cook County is". But today, even Du Page is voting majority Blue. Obviously, there is a lot of Red north of I-80, just as there is a lot of Blue south of I-80. But so many people have left Chicago and moved into the collar counties, they show up as a big splotch of blue on the voting maps.

[BRU67]

I would say yes. It's become kind of a Rust Belt Vermont. Reliably blue.

[Robert9]

Just the bad parts like the Chicago area

[dtcbnd03]

Yes. As a reasonable republican it's odd to think that votes should be tallied based on land size within a state. Votes follow people within a state...not land...so if in an extreme example 99.99% of blue voters live in Cook County except for one red voter who lives in a county that makes up the rest of Illinois why should that 1 person's vote have more weight simply due to land size within the state? Instead of land or county graphics it would be better if news orgs showed votes as two pitchers of water...one blue...one red...then people would get over the land idea within a state.

It's Illinois republican's jobs to convince voters to vote red in state races or more fiscally conservative cause that's the only way we turn this state around.

[via chicago]

[via chicago]

Originally Posted by dtcbnd03

Yes. As a reasonable republican it's odd to think that votes should be tallied based on land size within a state. Votes follow people within a state...not land...so if in an extreme example 99.99% of blue voters live in Cook County except for one red voter who lives in a county that makes up the rest of Illinois why should that 1 person's vote have more weight simply due to land size within the state?

well this is literally what the electoral college is but thats another topic

[dtcbnd03]

Originally Posted by via chicago

well this is literally what the electoral college is but thats another topic

Very true. I'm trying to get more educated on the electoral college. But I think the caveat there is we're a constitutional federal republic of states. So states make up the federation as opposed to a state that's divides itself into counties. States decide their own voting rules and are assigned electorates based on population. While it must be frustrating for dems to win popular and lose electorate it seems like an efficient and close to fair system given our makeup. Also imagine an election decided by 100k votes...think of a national recount as opposed to a few states. Also if we get rid of electoral college do we get rid of 2 senators per state as well?

I'm in favor of keeping electoral college and 2 senators per state (but acknowledge that's why the Dakotas we're split in two). America is great and our democracy works. No system is perfect so let's not use drastic overhauls just cause one side wins vs. the other.

[Hiruko]

Illinois is definitely a 'blue state' and has trended Democratic in a rather dramatic fashion since the 1990s. However, in the last few election cycles, Democrats have been running up smaller margins here than they did during the Obama era. For several years, Illinois was running up Democratic margins similar to or greater than California and Massachusetts. The last three election cycles have shown us something different.