Breaking: Lori Lightfoot is officially out as Mayor of Chicago. As Paul Vallas and Brandon Johnson advance to a runoff. (Lincoln: city hall, crime rates)

[midwest1]

Originally Posted by Kmanshouse

A city doesn't have to have "it's one big thing" to be hugely successful. In fact, I prefer Chicago doesn't, as it's then better protected by its diversity.

Being huge in one big thing didn't work so well for Detroit.

Detroit is doing rather well these days, all things considered.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Cool Arrow

Vallas will get the majority of White votes so I wouldn't be suprised if you see more Vallas signs in neighborhoods with high White population. Just like I wouldn't be surprised if you see a lot of Johnson signs in predominately Black neighborhoods. The determining factor will be HIspanic neighborhoods.

Hispanics went much more for Vallas than Johnson. In fact, I believe Vallas came in second in every hispanic majority ward. Poll from yesterday on the runoff shows Vallas up 11% at 44 to 33%.

https://www.1983labs.com/chicago-runoff

[Kmanshouse]

I honestly think that most people who aren't either 1) Uber-liberal or 2) black

are going to lean Vallas and vote for what they think will be more strict policing in Chicago. And some black folks will vote Vallas too (though certainly a minority of them).

I frankly find the following types the most annoying:

People who have pie-in-the-sky hopes and dreams of this utopian world of peace and love where if we just help all the poor people by giving them food and places to live, most of our problems would go away. Because, why would people be mad or upset if they have basic needs met? And if we can just "rescue" troubled people, crime will melt away. And that jails are bad because nobody is investing in their potential. And we should make sure that even if they aren't qualified, jobs should be filled based on race and gender, because then we won't see these problems in minority neighborhoods.

Life doesn't work that way. Instead, how about men step up and be husbands and fathers. How about have enough pride to know that when someone insults you, it's not about you and just let it go. How about getting drugs off the streets. How about spending time with your family. If people did more of this, we'd be in way better shape.

Not sure if these things are fixable.

[Cool Arrow]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

Hispanics went much more for Vallas than Johnson. In fact, I believe Vallas came in second in every hispanic majority ward. Poll from yesterday on the runoff shows Vallas up 11% at 44 to 33%.

https://www.1983labs.com/chicago-runoff

Vallas is going to win. He's not going to bring crime down more than it's curently trajectory which is approximately 14% drop from last year. What he will do is shut down a lot of schools on the west and south side and basically starve those areas of resources which will lead to greater exodus of those areas. He'll basically be Rahm 2.0. Privatize as much as he can and devout most of the resources to downtown and the northside. Teachers won't take this sitting down and you'll have multiple strikes. He might lift the city residency requirements which will decimate the outlying neighborhoods but will attract new police officers.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Kmanshouse

I honestly think that most people who aren't either 1) Uber-liberal or 2) black

are going to lean Vallas and vote for what they think will be more strict policing in Chicago. And some black folks will vote Vallas too (though certainly a minority of them).

I frankly find the following types the most annoying:

People who have pie-in-the-sky hopes and dreams of this utopian world of peace and love where if we just help all the poor people by giving them food and places to live, most of our problems would go away. Because, why would people be mad or upset if they have basic needs met? And if we can just "rescue" troubled people, crime will melt away. And that jails are bad because nobody is investing in their potential. And we should make sure that even if they aren't qualified, jobs should be filled based on race and gender, because then we won't see these problems in minority neighborhoods.

Life doesn't work that way. Instead, how about men step up and be husbands and fathers. How about have enough pride to know that when someone insults you, it's not about you and just let it go. How about getting drugs off the streets. How about spending time with your family. If people did more of this, we'd be in way better shape.

Not sure if these things are fixable.

I agree, Johnsons support seems to be mostly from white socialists. Socialism has attempted to achieve utopia on earth for over 100 years. The result has been 1,000,000s upon 1,000,000s of dead and human misery unmatched in history.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Cool Arrow

Vallas is going to win. He's not going to bring crime down more than it's curently trajectory which is approximately 14% drop from last year. What he will do is shut down a lot of schools on the west and south side and basically starve those areas of resources which will lead to greater exodus of those areas. He'll basically be Rahm 2.0. Privatize as much as he can and devout most of the resources to downtown and the northside. Teachers won't take this sitting down and you'll have multiple strikes. He might lift the city residency requirements which will decimate the outlying neighborhoods but will attract new police officers.

CPS has 70,000 fewer students today than in 2013. There are schools built for 1000+ students that have 64 kids in them. This makes no sense for the kids in these failing schools or the taxpayers that have fund them.

https://wirepoints.org/more-failure-...se-wirepoints/

The rest of your post is not based on anything but Brandon Johnson and CTU talking points. Which is why Vallas is likely to win. Chicagoans know BS when they see it. CTU has been failing our kids for too long.

https://wirepoints.org/how-can-84-of...ts-quickpoint/

[seahawks404]

Valles should win. A lot of Black people are tired of the violence too and are not excited about Johnson's policies. Some will also just sit out. The fact is many Black Chicagoans are planning to leave the city anyways. Latinos need to come out and vote Valles. Personally, I'm not excited about U.S. politics these days. We need better actors/actresses because modern politicians aren't believable imo.

[BRU67]

Originally Posted by Kmanshouse

I honestly think that most people who aren't either 1) Uber-liberal or 2) black

are going to lean Vallas and vote for what they think will be more strict policing in Chicago. And some black folks will vote Vallas too (though certainly a minority of them).

I frankly find the following types the most annoying:

People who have pie-in-the-sky hopes and dreams of this utopian world of peace and love where if we just help all the poor people by giving them food and places to live, most of our problems would go away. Because, why would people be mad or upset if they have basic needs met? And if we can just "rescue" troubled people, crime will melt away. And that jails are bad because nobody is investing in their potential. And we should make sure that even if they aren't qualified, jobs should be filled based on race and gender, because then we won't see these problems in minority neighborhoods.

Life doesn't work that way. Instead, how about men step up and be husbands and fathers. How about have enough pride to know that when someone insults you, it's not about you and just let it go. How about getting drugs off the streets. How about spending time with your family. If people did more of this, we'd be in way better shape.

Not sure if these things are fixable.

It is important to note that we already spend over $11 billion on social services. About $250 million from the City budget for community services, $7.8 billion for CPS (whose budget increase since 2016 is close to double the CPD's entire $1.9 billion budget). A big chunk of CPS budget goes to social services, such as special education, IEPs, corrective discipline, counseling, and social work. $6.2 billion on the Cook County government, which includes $2.8 billion to the health fund (social services and health care). And this $11 billion does not include all of the charitable organizations throughout the City who administer State and Federal grants and charitable donations.

Citadel, which became a huge boogeyman last night, donated $130 million to 40 Chicago community organizations last July alone. There are many others.

Even if you took the entire CPD budget and took every cop off the street and diverted the savings to social services, we'd only be increasing social services spending by about 10% or so. What's that going to do? Make a lot of people in the right industries rich, while making us much less safe. Personally, I think the focus should be on spending what we're spending more wisely, but that never seems to enter the discussion. Just the piddly (relative to overall social service spending) CPD budget.

I just think the choice is clear in this one. Unfortunately, in this era of identity politics, who knows what will happen. I still think Vallas will prevail, but it shouldn't be this close. We'll see!

[BRU67]

Originally Posted by seahawks404

Valles should win. A lot of Black people are tired of the violence too and are not excited about Johnson's policies. Some will also just sit out. The fact is many Black Chicagoans are planning to leave the city anyways. Latinos need to come out and vote Valles. Personally, I'm not excited about U.S. politics these days. We need better actors/actresses because modern politicians aren't believable imo.

Now let me shift to the left ;-) Sadly, I think a lot of conservatives (and most lefties) think black voters are plain dumb and will just vote for a candidate who looks like them. I strongly disagree and think you're right. A lot of black voters in Chicago are very worried (rightly so) about crime. So I don't see Johnson "cleaning house" in those precincts. He did horribly IMO on that issue last night and assuaged no fears. The Sun Times ran cover for him there this morning but the voters will ask "what's he going to do about crime?" They'll either find no answer or a very insufficient one.

I mean, yes, he may get the majority, but I do not think by a landslide. We will see of course.

[Bitey]

Johnson will get the majority of the black vote. But I don't think it will be 80%+ of the black vote as some might expect. I'd wager more in the 60-65% range. Willie Wilson's endorsement certainly doesn't hurt.