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Lets share our views on this topic, as I think that this is a major area for disagreement.My understanding from scripture is that Jesus talked about it and his second coming should be another incarnation.
The sheeple aren't going to like this but contrary to current popular beliefs...there are traces of it still in the bible that weren't completely edited out by Rome in not only the OT but the NT. James 3:6...speaks to the wheel of life.
It's a known fact that it was a common belief before Rome decided to ban it...but don't believe me, research it for yourself.
Hmm - that passage is interesting, I have wondered -- is it physical death that is being talked about?
Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once [B]in the end of the world [/b]hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second timewithout sin unto salvation.
A lot of folks still have not understood the verses above.
In one life cycle you die once. After death, you are judged by your actions. That judgement may mean your coming back to the world to serve the judgement.
For instance
First Adam sinned, lived a life to 930years with family etc. 2nd Adam, came for only a short assignment and gave his life as an atonement, nofamily. Do you see the similarities or differences?
Elijah killed several Baal priest in his lifetime. John the baptist a holy innocent man, certified by Jesus himself meets a very humiliating death at the hands of Herod. Do you see the cummeuppance for the earlier offence? He killed and his judgement was that he must be killed. He comes back to earth and circumstances are contrived by the Father of all to keep his natural Law - death by killing.
Jesus Christ of Jerusalem, King of the Jews gave his life for all mankind, his coming back now is to rule all the nations with an iron rod. He becomes the king of kings and the lord of lords
The sheeple aren't going to like this but contrary to current popular beliefs...there are traces of it still in the bible that weren't completely edited out by Rome in not only the OT but the NT. James 3:6...speaks to the wheel of life.
It's a known fact that it was a common belief before Rome decided to ban it...but don't believe me, research it for yourself.
If we deny reincarnation, it means we do not understand that man is made of spirit, water and blood. what happens to the spirit after liberation from the body by death or translation? It goes to the spiritual realm and is judged for all the events it acted in the earth. The resut of the judgement could necessitate it to come down on earth as man or as an animal or even a tree. After death, the spirit multiplies. Christ said unless a grain of corn is sown and it dies, it stands alone...
What happens to the baby in the womb? Without the spirit, man can do nothing, so the spirit enables the baby to develop in the womb. The spirit is life and is God and is every being.
The sheeple aren't going to like this but contrary to current popular beliefs...there are traces of it still in the bible that weren't completely edited out by Rome in not only the OT but the NT. James 3:6...speaks to the wheel of life.
James 3:6 speakes to wheel of life?
James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.
I think you need to read the Bible before you tell us what is says.
James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.
I think you need to read the Bible before you tell us what is says.
Gr. trochon tēs geneseōs = a wheel
I have read it several hundred times...I think you need to actually study yours instead of just reading what the biased translators want you to read.
I have read it several hundred times...I think you need to actually study yours instead of just reading what the biased translators want you to read.
James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the a wheel; and it is set on fire by hell.
Still doesn't work. Makes even less sense. Sorry.
The english word course is what it really means per Strongs and other people who are far smarter than you or I when it comes to Greek.
From Strongs:
Original Word: τροχός
Transliteration: trochos
Phonetic Spelling: (trokh-os')
Short Definition: course
James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the a wheel; and it is set on fire by hell.
I had an interesting discussion the other day with a NDE'r, who believed in reincarnation.
I tried to find common ground.
I think we both agreed, that regardless of what happens after this life,
our actions have eternal consequences.
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