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I'll post another link, since I posted the other one twice already. Apparently people are blatantly ignoring them, or just think that by covering their eyes or ears will keep them from the reality that Paul did not represent Christ.
Wow...you guys will try anything to circumvent Jewish law...won't you...but this doesn't change the fact that the family line is ONLY passed through THE FATHER (you know the one Jesus didn't have being from a virgin and all) and NOT the mother...nice try but an EPIC FAIL...yet again!
MY faith is rooted firmly in Christ...lock, stock and barrel with hands down...
"Father forgive them for they know not what they do"
Wow...you guys will try anything to circumvent Jewish law...won't you...but this doesn't change the fact that the family line is ONLY passed through THE FATHER (you know the one Jesus didn't have being from a virgin and all) and NOT the mother...nice try but an EPIC FAIL...yet again!
That was true pre-Christ, Christy . . . (you know OT law . . . because of all the notable fornicators and kings like Solomon who took foreign women as wives, etc.) . . . but it has been Matrilineal since Jesus.
"Sometime during the Roman occupation and the Second Temple period, a law of matrilineal descent, which defined a Jew as someone with a Jewish mother, was adopted. By the 2nd century CE, it was clearly practiced.
The Talmud (Kiddushin 68b), which was compiled in the 4th and 5th centuries, explains that the law of matrilineal descent derived from the Torah. The Torah passage (Deut. 7:3-4) reads: "Thy daughter thou shalt not give to his son, nor shalt thou take his daughter to thy son. For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods."
For centuries, while orthodox Judaism was the only form of Judaism, the law of matrilineal descent was unquestionably accepted. Orthodox Judaism even believed that anyone with a Jewish mother had irrevocable Jewish status; in other words, even if someone with a Jewish mother converted to another religion, that person would still be considered Jewish." Who is a Jew via Descent
Wow...you guys will try anything to circumvent Jewish law...won't you...but this doesn't change the fact that the family line is ONLY passed through THE FATHER (you know the one Jesus didn't have being from a virgin and all) and NOT the mother...nice try but an EPIC FAIL...yet again!
As queen of your world, you say "it's to admit...you don't know for sure."
First, as queen of a world, you assume self control over property that Jesus bought for a great price. Know therefore, and understand your assumption is false. Second, by your own admission you're uncertain about what you think you know..."Verily, verily, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness." (John) 3:11.
Joseph, who was of the house of David of the tribe of Judah, was Jesus earthly father according to the spirit of adoption. Mary was of both the house of David of the tribe of Judah, and the tribe of Levi. Joseph and Mary were in scriptural fact 7th cousins. We're not circumventing any Jewish law...we are in scriptural fact magnifying it. The Blessings of The Eternal One bring you joy...
Wow...you guys will try anything to circumvent Jewish law...won't you...but this doesn't change the fact that the family line is ONLY passed through THE FATHER (you know the one Jesus didn't have being from a virgin and all) and NOT the mother...nice try but an EPIC FAIL...yet again!
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Originally Posted by ans57
MY faith is rooted firmly in Christ...lock, stock and barrel with hands down...
"Father forgive them for they know not what they do"
And I do not adhere to any "organized religion"...neither do I follow man's doctrine. I just do my best to walk spiritually on the way that leads to life...God's WILL be done in HIS own time!
~THOU SHALT LOVE THE LORD THY GOD WITH ALL THY HEART, AND WITH ALL THY SOUL, AND WITH ALL THY STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL THY MIND; AND THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF~
This is the second time I'm posting this, and it will be the last. Either read it, or don't, its up to you.
Thank you for the link...I too have had reservations in "The epistles" especially Paul's...which is why I don't quote from them. To me, it only generates a cacophony of unintelligible sounds (contentions)...not a good thing!
That was true pre-Christ, Christy . . . (you know OT law . . . because of all the notable fornicators and kings like Solomon who took foreign women as wives, etc.) . . . but it has been Matrilineal since Jesus.
"Sometime during the Roman occupation and the Second Temple period, a law of matrilineal descent, which defined a Jew as someone with a Jewish mother, was adopted. By the 2nd century CE, it was clearly practiced.
The Talmud (Kiddushin 68b), which was compiled in the 4th and 5th centuries, explains that the law of matrilineal descent derived from the Torah. The Torah passage (Deut. 7:3-4) reads: "Thy daughter thou shalt not give to his son, nor shalt thou take his daughter to thy son. For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods."
For centuries, while orthodox Judaism was the only form of Judaism, the law of matrilineal descent was unquestionably accepted. Orthodox Judaism even believed that anyone with a Jewish mother had irrevocable Jewish status; in other words, even if someone with a Jewish mother converted to another religion, that person would still be considered Jewish." Who is a Jew via Descent
While I agree that they adopted Matrilineal descent in the second temple period (although most Rabbi's agree that Deut 7:3-4 was misinterpreted due to the fact that when a woman married it was required that she take on the religion of the male)...it wasn't accepted prior to that and the qualifications for the Messiah still require patrilineal descent...per the Rabbis. I'm still waiting for a response from another Rabbi and will let you know what I find out.
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As queen of your world, you say "it's to admit...you don't know for sure."
First, as queen of a world, you assume self control over property that Jesus bought for a great price. Know therefore, and understand your assumption is false. Second, by your own admission you're uncertain about what you think you know..."Verily, verily, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness." (John) 3:11.
Joseph, who was of the house of David of the tribe of Judah, was Jesus earthly father according to the spirit of adoption. Mary was of both the house of David of the tribe of Judah, and the tribe of Levi. Joseph and Mary were in scriptural fact 7th cousins. We're not circumventing any Jewish law...we are in scriptural fact magnifying it. The Blessings of The Eternal One bring you joy...
I hope you feel better now.
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