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If Christ cannot save Everyone then it would mean that the Power of the one man to bring everyone to death was more powerful than His. Praise God that Christ indeed has that Power to save EVERYONE and WILL do it.
Not according to the Word of God trettep...but we shall certainly find out now...won't we...?
If Christ cannot save Everyone then it would mean that the Power of the one man to bring everyone to death was more powerful than His. Praise God that Christ indeed has that Power to save EVERYONE and WILL do it.
I don't believe that is what Verna is saying: that Christ "cannot save everyone". Because, obviously, He could.
However, not everyone is willing to be saved. Not everyone is willing to believe, to come to Christ by faith.
The bottem line is that yes, God has the power to save everyone, but not everyone will be saved, because some will refuse to believe and come to Christ, that they might be saved. It's not God's fault if some are not saved...
I don't believe that is what Verna is saying: that Christ "cannot save everyone". Because, obviously, He could.
However, not everyone is willing to be saved. Not everyone is willing to believe, to come to Christ by faith.
The bottem line is that yes, God has the power to save everyone, but not everyone will be saved, because some will refuse to believe and come to Christ, that they might be saved. It's not God's fault if some are not saved...
Bud
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I don't believe that is what Verna is saying: that Christ "cannot save everyone". Because, obviously, He could.
However, not everyone is willing to be saved. Not everyone is willing to believe, to come to Christ by faith.
The bottem line is that yes, God has the power to save everyone, but not everyone will be saved, because some will refuse to believe and come to Christ, that they might be saved. It's not God's fault if some are not saved...
Bud
Of course it is Gods fault if it doesn't happen after reading his promises in scripture.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shal many be made righteous.
Bless Your Holy Word Father...In Jesus precious Name...Amen.
There is no virtue in the cross. Jesus was not the only man to die on a cross. Death by crucifixion was a well-known method used by the Romans to execute criminals. The virtue is in the ONE WHO hung on that cross. The virtue is in Jesus.
The cross and the sufferings Jesus endured are indescribable. There is no possible way we can comprehend the humiliation...the pain and the suffering He endured. The natural mind rejects the thoughts of suffeing and death. It hurts us to think about Him hangng there on the cross. It hurts us to think about the price He had to pay. We should rather think about the glorious resurrection.
The disciples rejected the idea that Jesus would have to die. Even during their last night together...the night befor His death...they were still arguing about who was going to be the greatest in the new kingdom Jesus was going to set up.
But, unless we are willing to take a long, hard look at Jesus' sufferings and death and be willing to identify with Him in His death, we will not be able to share His glory.
Just as it was necessary, according to God's will, for Jesus to be willing to be obedient even unto death; we must be willing to be obedient unto death. Just as it was necessary, according to God's will, for Jesus to be willing to walk the road to Calvary; we must be willing to walk along the road with Him in obedience. To do this, we must DIE TO SELF!!!
Our churches today are filled with Christians desiring to be seated with Christ "in heavenly places." Like the Apostle Paul, they want to know Jesus in the power of His resurrection but they stop there....
THERE IS MORE!!!!.....MUCH, MUCH MORE!!!
In Christ's love...prayerfully in His truth,
Verna.
1Cr 3:12-15
Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
What are the works of men which are considered to be works of wood hay and stubble if the are not sins?
And even is a man has NO good works, he will be saved according to the passage above.
The best proof that if someone continues to sin until they die, and even if they only have works which are sinful and are like wood hay and stubble, they will be saved.
And we also read ...
1Jo 2:1
My little children, these things I write to you, that ye may not sin: and if any one may sin, an advocate we have with the Father, Jesus Christ, a righteous one
So here you have it, if anyone sins, Christ is our advocate before the father. Again, more scriptural evidence that sin does not rob us of our salvation in Christ.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shal many be made righteous.
Bless Your Holy Word Father...In Jesus precious Name...Amen.
There is no virtue in the cross. Jesus was not the only man to die on a cross. Death by crucifixion was a well-known method used by the Romans to execute criminals. The virtue is in the ONE WHO hung on that cross. The virtue is in Jesus.
The cross and the sufferings Jesus endured are indescribable. There is no possible way we can comprehend the humiliation...the pain and the suffering He endured. The natural mind rejects the thoughts of suffeing and death. It hurts us to think about Him hangng there on the cross. It hurts us to think about the price He had to pay. We should rather think about the glorious resurrection.
The disciples rejected the idea that Jesus would have to die. Even during their last night together...the night befor His death...they were still arguing about who was going to be the greatest in the new kingdom Jesus was going to set up.
But, unless we are willing to take a long, hard look at Jesus' sufferings and death and be willing to identify with Him in His death, we will not be able to share His glory.
Just as it was necessary, according to God's will, for Jesus to be willing to be obedient even unto death; we must be willing to be obedient unto death. Just as it was necessary, according to God's will, for Jesus to be willing to walk the road to Calvary; we must be willing to walk along the road with Him in obedience. To do this, we must DIE TO SELF!!!
Our churches today are filled with Christians desiring to be seated with Christ "in heavenly places." Like the Apostle Paul, they want to know Jesus in the power of His resurrection but they stop there....
THERE IS MORE!!!!.....MUCH, MUCH MORE!!!
In Christ's love...prayerfully in His truth,
Verna.
"For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shal many be made righteous."
How many people were made sinners by the disobedience of Adam? All people ...
How many people will be made righteous by the obedience of Christ? The same amount of people who were made sinners by the disobedience of Adam. That is to say, all people.
By whose obedience are all people made righteous? Is it by the obedience of all people that all people are made righteous? Nope ... Read it again ... it is by the obedience of Christ that all people will be made righteous.
1Cr 3:12-15
Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
First of all, before I go any further, I want you to know Ironmaw, that I do not reply here for you...just the way God's Word gets twisted, torn apart, shreaded and defiled...it just rubs me like sandpaper...but I am in no way shocked or surprised at your inability to correctly comprehend/interpret God's truth.
This reply is for those out there who earnestly seek the heart of God's will for their lives, the truth...you go ahead and complete your mission on this earth Ironmaw...but I will set the record straight for those who really want to know the truth.
Let me begin by saying that Paul is specifically speaking to to the Church of God at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints! The testimony of Christ is confirmed within them...they are brethren!...It is these, the true, believing, faithful, obedient Christians who did not die in their sin, but lived a clean, blameless life in the righteousness of Christ whom will have their works judged at the Great White Throne of Judgement, and whatever they built upon the Foundation, the ONLY! Foundation - Jesus Christ, if it was anything other than anything that glorified God through Christ Jesus, it will burn!...and there will be judgement and their inheritance (rewards) will be lost forever, but they will still see their salvation.
As sure as I live and breath, anyone who dies in their sins, who did not receive Jesus Christ as LORD and Savior, and did not live their life in the Spirit of Christ...faithful and obedient to the commands of God, will stand naked and ashamed before our King and will not go to His right to be with Him for all eternity, they will be directed to His left...He never knew you...It is written!!! Thus saith the LORD God Almighty!
So!...now that we've cleared that up, let me clear this up as well...
Some build upon this Foundation gold, silver, and precious stones (v. 12), namely, those who receive and spread the pure truths of the gospel, who hold nothing but the truth as it is in Jesus, and preach nothing else. This is building well upon a good foundation, making all of apiece, when ministers not only depend upon Christ as the great prophet of the church, and take him for their guide and infallible teacher, but receive and spread the doctrines he taught, in their purity, without any corrupt mixtures, without adding or diminishing.
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What are the works of men which are considered to be works of wood hay and stubble if the are not sins?
Others build wood, hay, and stubble, on this foundation; that is, though they adhere to the foundation, they depart from the mind of Christ in many particulars, substitute their own fancies and inventions in the room of his doctrines and institutions, and build upon the good foundation what will not abide the test when the day of trial shall come, and the fire must make it manifest, as wood, hay, and stubble, will not bear the trial by fire, but must be consumed in it. There is a time coming when a discovery will be made of what men have built on this foundation: Every man's work shall be made manifest, shall be laid open to view, to his own view and that of others. Keep in mind...this judgement of works is for saints only...those who died in Christ Jesus...who lived a life in the will of the Father...faithful, believing, obedient Christians...brethren!
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Originally Posted by Ironmaw
And even is a man has NO good works, he will be saved according to the passage above.
Now that we understand that you do not have the correct understanding of the passage above, this is absolutely i-n-c-r-e-d-i-b-l-e. Literally.
[quote=Ironmaw]The best proof that if someone continues to sin until they die, and even if they only have works which are sinful and are like wood hay and stubble, they will be saved.[quote]
Uh....nope. That is a lie from the pit of hell.
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Originally Posted by Ironmaw
And we also read ...
1Jo 2:1
My little children, these things I write to you, that ye may not sin: and if any one may sin, an advocate we have with the Father, Jesus Christ, a righteous one
So here you have it, if anyone sins, Christ is our advocate before the father. Again, more scriptural evidence that sin does not rob us of our salvation in Christ.
All men are invited to come to God through this all-sufficient atonement, and by this new and living way. The gospel, when rightly understood and received, sets the heart against all sin, and stops the allowed practice of it; at the same time it gives blessed relief to the wounded consciences of those who have sinned.
Yes, Jesus is our Advocate, while here on earth, after we have received Jesus into our hearts, while we are growing, learning, and maturing into a true faithful, obedient, born-again Christian. Only then. Not after you die in your sins and you find yourself standing before Jesus our King and Righteous Judge...nope...no way. Your time to get right with God in an intimate relationship with Him has passed.
You need to understand that the Bible, God's Word, is speaking/teaching/warning believers. Understanding this will help you greatly in your understanding of Scripture.
God Bless you.
In Christ's love...and prayerfully in His truth,
Verna.
"For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shal many be made righteous."
How many people were made sinners by the disobedience of Adam? All people ...
How many people will be made righteous by the obedience of Christ? The same amount of people who were made sinners by the disobedience of Adam. That is to say, all people.
By whose obedience are all people made righteous? Is it by the obedience of all people that all people are made righteous? Nope ... Read it again ... it is by the obedience of Christ that all people will be made righteous.
Peace ...
Nope...not according to God's Word. I'll stick with God.
Faith/obedience leads one to be imputed with the righteousness of Christ. Period.
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