Does God Love the Sinner and Hate the Sin? (believers, Moses, priest)
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"The honour of God is to hide a thing, And the honour of kings to search out a matter."
Amen Ironmaw
I also believe if your heart is open there's a witness to the truth , you may not fully understand or explain it , but there's something in your innermost being that you know, that you know, that you know.
I also believe if your heart is open there's a witness to the truth , you may not fully understand or explain it , but there's something in your innermost being that you know, that you know, that you know.
Notice how the ET'ers and Annihilators must always refer back to the old testament to prove their points? Especially once it is proven that "aion" and its adjective forms do not actually mean eternal or everlasting and once it is proven that Hell is the mistranslation of four different words which mean different things?
2Cr 3:14
But their thoughts have been darkened, for unto this day the same veil remains in reading the old covenant, unremoved, which in Christ is annulled.
You see, the veil which remains to this day "in the reading of the old testament" is done away with by the example we are Given in Christ Jesus. The pharisees of his times could not see it because they were blinded by the very same veil that the pharisees of our time are blinded by in their reading of the old testament. They cannot see how Christ abolishes that veil which blinds so many people when they read the old testament.
One day they will be healed and will come to see their folly and hardness of heart. Then they will know the true glory of God who not only loves all but is love.
Also, notice there is not one single verse in the new testament that says that God hates sinners? In fact the new testament teaches the very opposite, but those who are blind because of their reading of the old testament cannot see it or understand it, because they are yet carnally minded and these spiritual things of God can only be spiritually perceived and understood.
Peace ...
Last edited by Ironmaw1776; 10-18-2010 at 05:32 PM..
"The honour of God is to hide a thing, And the honour of kings to search out a matter."
That's interesting, Iron because most of us are not kings. It also sets people up to think they alone have some inside track to some esoteric "truth" others just can't seem to grasp.
Notice how the ET'ers and Annihilators must always refer back to the old testament to prove their points? Especially once it is proven that "aion" and its adjective forms do not actually mean eternal or everlasting and once it is proven that Hell is the mistranslation of four different words which mean different things?
2Cr 3:14
But their minds were blinded: for until this day the same vail remaineth untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
You see, the veil which remains to this day "in the reading of the old testament" is done away with by the example we are Given in Christ Jesus. the pharisees of his times could not see it because they were blinded by the very same veil that the pharisees of our time are blinded by in their reading of the old testament. They cannot see how Christ abolishes that veil which blinds so many people when they read the old testament.
One day they will be healed and will come to see their folly and hardness of heart. then they will know the true glory of God who not only loves all but is love.
Also, notice there is not one single verse in the new testament that says that God hates sinners? In fact the new testament teaches the very opposite, but those who are blind because of their reading of the old testament cannot see it or understand it, because they are yet carnally minded and these spiritual things of god can only be spiritually perceived and understood.
Peace ...
Yes i have Ironmaw , and the point you make about there being no verse of scripture in the NT that says God hates sinners is an excellent point. Infact the NT declares the exact opposite that He loves sinners and it's sinners He came to heal.
Notice how the ET'ers and Annihilators must always refer back to the old testament to prove their points? Especially once it is proven that "aion" and its adjective forms do not actually mean eternal or everlasting and once it is proven that Hell is the mistranslation of four different words which mean different things?
2Cr 3:14
But their thoughts have been darkened, for unto this day the same veil remains in reading the old covenant, unremoved, which in Christ is annulled.
You see, the veil which remains to this day "in the reading of the old testament" is done away with by the example we are Given in Christ Jesus. the pharisees of his times could not see it because they were blinded by the very same veil that the pharisees of our time are blinded by in their reading of the old testament. They cannot see how Christ abolishes that veil which blinds so many people when they read the old testament.
One day they will be healed and will come to see their folly and hardness of heart. then they will know the true glory of God who not only loves all but is love.
Also, notice there is not one single verse in the new testament that says that God hates sinners? In fact the new testament teaches the very opposite, but those who are blind because of their reading of the old testament cannot see it or understand it, because they are yet carnally minded and these spiritual things of god can only be spiritually perceived and understood.
Peace ...
Oh wow, thank you for posting that scripture ironmaw, somehow I had not noticed it much before.
2 Cor 3:14 But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.
It makes it so clear. The OT must be read keeping in mind the spirit of Christ - NOT the other way round (ie. trying to determine the spirit of God by reading the OT).
That's interesting, Iron because most of us are not kings. It also sets people up to think they alone have some inside track to some esoteric "truth" others just can't seem to grasp.
Indeed ...
1 Cor 2:13-16
This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment:
“For who has known the mind of the Lord
that he may instruct him?”
But we have the mind of Christ.
Rev 5:9-10
"They sang a new song, saying, "You are worthy to take the book, and to open its seals: for you were killed, and bought us for God with your blood, out of every tribe, language, people, and nation, and made us kings and priests to our God, and we will reign on earth."
Oh wow, thank you for posting that scripture ironmaw, somehow I had not noticed it much before.
2 Cor 3:14 But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.
It makes it so clear. The OT must be read keeping in mind the spirit of Christ - NOT the other way round (ie. trying to determine the spirit of God by reading the OT).
Yeah, its a great verse ... And it pretty much explains the reason why some people cannot understand that God does in fact love all people, including those who do not yet love him.
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