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Old 10-21-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Every church I have ever been to said to thank God for the good things in life that you have and I agree with that. However, when something bad happens, they teach you to never blame God. If everything is through Him, wouldn't bad things be as well?
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yes, that makes sense...it's just another one of the many hippocracies of church.
Job 1:21 He said, "Naked I came from my mother's womb, And naked I shall return there. The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away. Blessed be the name of the LORD."

Job 2:10 But he said to her, "You speak as one of the foolish women speaks. Shall we indeed accept good from God and not accept adversity?" In all this Job did not sin with his lips.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Job is a literary writing from the creative perceptions of men.
Who do not understand, why bad things happen to good people.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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Job is a literary writing from the creative perceptions of men.
Who do not understand, why bad things happen to good people.
The book of Job is historical. Job is described in Ezek. 14:14,20 and James 5:11 as an historical person.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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The book of Job is historical. Job is described in Ezek. 14:14,20 and James 5:11 as an historical person.
I am not refuting Job's existence, just man's comprehension of adversity.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:48 PM
 
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The founding fathers of America may have had it right- that after creation...God cut us loose to fend for ourselves...Prophets have come along with suggestions on how to get along..that has been helpful...but for the most part- God allows us to stumble along...all of our human problems come not from God but from humanities failures...God is a cold and distant father.
God is a knowable and caring being who carries us from life to life. If we experience hardship, it is because of our own doing. God provides a way out and at this point we have been told what to do for thousands of years.

In the New Era we have been "cut loose" to fend for ourselves just as it says in the Bible that each one will be under their own vine and fig tree:

Michah 4:4-
Every man will sit under his own vine and under his own fig tree, and no one will make them afraid, for the LORD Almighty has spoken.

This refers to the I AM Presence of each one, who is a knowable being who cares and is only distant to the extent that people separate themselves from it.
I AM Presence Portrait


As far as "humanities failures" this is why we have been commanded to come apart and be a separate and chosen people! We create the world with our Individualized Presences and each one must do their part; if humanity wants to rebel and create a world that is apart from the understanding that this is God's world and we are obliged to create life for God, they are free to do that. People don't have to follow along or be bowed down because of it.

1 Corinthians 10:26

"The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."
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Old 10-23-2012, 03:09 PM
 
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Job 1:21 He said, "Naked I came from my mother's womb, And naked I shall return there. The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away. Blessed be the name of the LORD."

Job 2:10 But he said to her, "You speak as one of the foolish women speaks. Shall we indeed accept good from God and not accept adversity?" In all this Job did not sin with his lips.
I KNOW I was born naked from my mothers womb,( thanks mom) and I KNOW I'll never go back there, So I guess (if I understand you) I should just accept without question that it's all the lords doing, and go with the masses that say when things are going well "the lord giveth" and when things are going poorly "the lord taketh away"....if I question this,.. am I "sinning with my lips"?
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