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Old 10-31-2010, 09:37 PM
 
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Yet if we say we never sin, John calls us what? Liars!

1Jn 1:8: If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9: If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10: If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us.
Actually, John calls liars who say they have never sinned, 'liars' ... not forgiven Christians.

One cannot actually become a Christian (have a 'Savior'), unless they have first acknowledged, confessed and repented of their own sin! (What does the Savior save one from, if not the just wages of their own sin).

Therefore, Christians have fully met the requirements of I Jn 1:8 and 1 Jn 1:10; and are thus, recipients of the wonderful, ongoing blessings of forgiveness and cleansing of their sin, in I Jn 1:9.
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:19 AM
 
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I don't think that God is unjust. I think He is completely just.
What would be unjust is to let sin abound in a place misunderstood as "hell" for the rest of eternity.
Let's Thank God that He is more powerful than that and will rid all of mankind of their evil ways. After all if God can rid man of evil then why would He neglect to do so for ALL? It was He, after all, that brought all of us into existence by giving us life in the first place.
What I'm trying to teach you Truth Light is that God will save EVERYONE eventually (in due time). There is a lot you might not understand about this message and there are MANY that HATE it (after all they are men). But use rationality and logic (that God gave you that you use everyday) and you will not be able to refute it. I say this to hope that God will open your mind to understanding. Let me know if you have further questions. I want to help where able.
Paul
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I don't think that God is unjust. That's why if Eve made a sin,God may repent it if she asked for forgiveness , or punish her if he wants.
Jesus has nothing to do with this !
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:55 PM
 
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I don't think that God is unjust. That's why if Eve made a sin,God may repent it if she asked for forgiveness , or punish her if he wants.
Jesus has nothing to do with this !
I don't believe God is unjust either. God can only forgive someone if He put it their hearts to repent. So it is up to God whether one repent at all. Repentance is a gift from God.
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Old 11-01-2010, 06:39 PM
 
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I don't think that God is unjust. That's why if Eve made a sin,God may repent it if she asked for forgiveness , or punish her if he wants.
Jesus has nothing to do with this !
Isaiah 43:27 Thy first father hath sinned, and thy teachers have transgressed against me.

Since time immemorial, religious teachings has been the premise of MEN...so who had been teaching falsely and sinned against the Creator?

Isaiah 2:22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he accounted of?

And isn't it Adam whom God breathed life through the nostrils in order that he become a living soul?

Peace!
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Old 11-01-2010, 06:41 PM
 
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John Calls Christian Liars!!!!


I suspect the larger sin is not lying to each other, but rather, the lies they tell themselves.
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Old 11-02-2010, 06:08 AM
 
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I don't believe God is unjust either. God can only forgive someone if He put it their hearts to repent. So it is up to God whether one repent at all. Repentance is a gift from God.


That's what I am saying
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