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Old 07-01-2011, 07:08 AM
 
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Hi everyone A few things to consider. First the term in the original scripture is the word YOM which can mean a day and most times does but it can also mean a period of time. So in Genesis where it say and the evening and the morning were the first day could be translated, and the evening and the morning were the first time period.

Secondly have you ever wondered why it is evening first and then morning? Most of us think of morning before evening but the scriptures report it in this instance as evening and then morning, why? Remember that the scriptures are not to be taken literally but spiritually. Think of the evening, the light is fading things get indistinct and blurry, it is hard to see. Then the morning, it is bright and clear, easy to see shapes and things. God brings order out of Chaos. The different periods of time start out chaotic and messy as the earth brings forth what God has called for and as they proceed order is brought and the creation is complete, order out of chaos, that is how God does it.
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:08 AM
 
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If you are referring to the sabbth, you have interpreted it wrong. The sabbath is a day of rest from the world, not from doing anything. It's a time to reflect on life, beauty, goodness, peace, joy, hope, forgiveness and mercy. A day to return to Love. It's not about days of the week or what God would have you not do. I'd explain the rest of what the "six days" mean but you still wouldn't get it so I'll leave it at that.
Ironically, as a Christian, brakelite violates the 4th Commandment (Sabbath) every single week.
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Old 07-01-2011, 08:58 AM
 
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Allegorical being the key word here. I wonder why people feel compelled to prove a literal six day Creation. Why does their faith require it? I just don't get it why there is so much immature understanding of things in our culture.
The entire bible, then, must be considered allegorical.

Either accept 6-day creation, or accept that your faith is based on a myth.
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Old 07-01-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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Man created the days of the week, not God. Man created the bible, not God. Our planet is at least 4 billion years old. Science can prove that. Man has been here for at least 100,000 years. We have fossils dating well over 6000 years of human beings. Just because something from the bible is interpreted to mean something, doesn't mean it's interpreted correctly.

Yes, we worship God. We don't worship the bible because the bible can do nothing for you. Sure, there are things in the bible that can help you on your journey but it's not to be worshipped as God or His word. The day will come when your eyes and ears will be opened. Until then, be blessed and be love. Live life in the moment instead of dwelling on the past cause it's gone and you can't change it. The moment you are in is all you have.
Actually, there are hominid fossils from 4 million years ago. It's arbitrary to refer to any human remains as being modern "humans" since evolution is a continuum -- there is no instantaneous moment where people went from cro-mags to "homo sapien."
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Old 07-01-2011, 09:18 AM
 
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The entire bible, then, must be considered allegorical.

Either accept 6-day creation, or accept that your faith is based on a myth.
Why? The bible is a compilation of writings from various times and by various authors using various literary means of communicating their beliefs and understanding. How do you draw the conclusion that the use of allegory in one book means all other books must be using the same device?
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:18 AM
 
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The entire bible, then, must be considered allegorical.

Either accept 6-day creation, or accept that your faith is based on a myth.
That makes no sense. The Bible is not a single book. Why can some of it not be allegory and others be history?
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:23 AM
 
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Why? The bible is a compilation of writings from various times and by various authors using various literary means of communicating their beliefs and understanding. How do you draw the conclusion that the use of allegory in one book means all other books must be using the same device?
Sure, I see your point, but the this certainly puts a sizable dent in the argument that the bible is divinely inspired. God's word is God's word, is it not? If this book is merely several authors' attempts to explain their world, then you've established what many atheists have already hypothesized.
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:25 AM
 
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That makes no sense. The Bible is not a single book. Why can some of it not be allegory and others be history?
What makes no sense is the concept of an all-knowing, all-powerful, perfect, benevolent God seeking to inform his creation of his power through clumsy allegories, 30-40 different authors, and incessantly conflicting parables, many of which make little sense within themselves.

Yeah?

So the conclusion I'm left with is, this is all stuff written by fallible men. Steinbeck was a fallible man, and his authorship had more poetry and wisdom than any single book of the bible.
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:37 AM
 
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Sure, I see your point, but the this certainly puts a sizable dent in the argument that the bible is divinely inspired. God's word is God's word, is it not?
God's word is God's word? I assume you mean that every word of the bible is the literal "word of God"? Not even all Christians believe that and I certainly don't.


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If this book is merely several authors' attempts to explain their world, then you've established what many atheists have already hypothesized.
And I would say that it is possible that they had insights that have merit and can contribute, along with the insights of others, past and present, to an understanding of who/what God may be.
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Old 07-01-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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Actually, there are hominid fossils from 4 million years ago. It's arbitrary to refer to any human remains as being modern "humans" since evolution is a continuum -- there is no instantaneous moment where people went from cro-mags to "homo sapien."
Maybe I should of said "mankind".
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