Those who claim they speak for God. (Mormons, Christ, Bible)
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Just so people know that this is not about my personal beliefs, let me illustrate something. What you think of my beliefs is irrelevant, at least in this thread, because my OP does not take a stance for or against any sect of belief.
There is a group of universalists who despite their belief that God will save all mankind go around making the claim that they speak the absolute truth for God. These people make it their business to tell others that if you do not agree with them then you are not of God and any belief you have is of a different God.
Again, you have people who are in opposition to their basic doctrine who also claim they speak for God and assert themselves in a similar manner.
So, obviously, anyone can make that claim, the OP is about the validity of such a claim and where any truth may be found in it.
For those of you that want to make this about me, just address the OP and leave specific beliefs out of it, because my personal beliefs or yours really has nothing to do with the OP.
Personally, I don't lose sleep over whether people believe what I say or not. I listen to what I feel inside, and to me, that is Christ. Sometimes I feel I get it right, sometimes I feel I've made a mistake. We may change over time, but He doesn't. He has never left us nor forsaken us.
So, you ARE admitting you could be wrong about your CORE beliefs?
Last edited by Finn_Jarber; 10-13-2011 at 09:01 AM..
I guess you could say that. You judge by saying othjer people's words are not in spirit of God, yet you fail to see your judgment is not in spirit of God either.
I guess you could say that. You judge by saying othjer people's words are not in spirit of God, yet you fail to see your judgment is not in spirit of God either.
Perhaps it is not, at least you see the point of the OP finally, thank you.
So, you ARE admitting you could be wrong in what you say about universal salvation?
Finn,
my beliefs are based on scripture, and on what I feel in my heart. Love, as I have experienced it, does not torment and burn people. It is based on forgiveness, not arguing; freely doing good, not threatening punishment.
If God is Love, then we can rest in assurance that God will have all men to be saved in the end.
So, you ARE admitting you could be wrong in what you say about universal salvation?
After the Lord humbled me and made me teachable,I did the same thing in regards to the hell of eternal torment, i admitted to myself that I could be wrong about it, this would have never happened if I had not been made teachable, I would be right their with you Finn,condemning sinners to hell for not believing in Jesus and the bible(god).
I think the fact that even you doubt the core message you preach, speaks louder than any argument anyone else can make against universalism. Why should ANYONE listen to a word of it, when even you can't believe it.
That has nothing to do with what I said. Try again.
This thread is not about universalism, please address the OP and quit trying to hijack the thread.
So, you ARE admitting you could be wrong about your CORE beliefs?
Well, I showed that you were wrong about the intent of my op, so obviously taking the position that you cannot be wrong didn;t mean anything, because you were.
What is your position on someone who has a different view than you that makes the same claim that you do, that what they are saying is the absolute word of God ?
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