Those who claim they speak for God. (punishment, believing, Jesus)
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There is a difference between someone speaking what is in their heart, but is not condemning what other people speak from their heart; and someone who says, "I'm holy and speaking God's message, and you're a lost, hell-bound sinner who needs to listen to what I'm saying because I'm speaking for God and you aren't."
If we're willing to admit that we might be wrong, I think we're one step ahead.. Some are not willing, however.. and often it is those types of people who do the most harm to others.
Blessings,
brian
So, you are admitting you could be wrong in what you say about universal salvation? In that case I don't see why anyone should listen to what you have to say.
I am finding it interesting that those who think they speak for God can't seem to deal with the proposed questioning in the OP, they actually seem to show that their spirit is not of God after all.
If you do not speak for God, then I'd like to know who you speal for. Would you mind revealing that to us?
There is a difference between someone speaking what is in their heart, but is not condemning what other people speak from their heart; and someone who says, "I'm holy and speaking God's message, and you're a lost, hell-bound sinner who needs to listen to what I'm saying because I'm speaking for God and you aren't."
If we're willing to admit that we might be wrong, I think we're one step ahead.. Some are not willing, however.. and often it is those types of people who do the most harm to others.
Blessings,
brian
A person can be confident that they are correct and my op will probably not apply to them.
I really don't care if you believe hell is eternal or if you believe God will save all mankind, the question in the OP remains the same.
The OP is about a person taking the time to address their stance in a position with someone else who makes the same claim.
You can have two people on opposites side of an issue and they both will claim they are guided by the holy spirit, or two people claim they speak for God but the two people who do this have beliefs that oppose one another.
I think it is reasonable to ask these people to talk about that problem.
But so far all I have seen is these people presenting a defensive wall as if I offended them personally when I never mentioned them at all.
Very telling that reaction, it certainly isn't a spirit of God that they speak for.
So, you are admitting you could be wrong in what you say about universal salvation? In that case I don't see why anyone should listen to what you have to say.
Finn,
let's not play dumb. We both know that one scripture can be used against another scripture in order to "promote" a doctrine; and that two groups of people will quote different scriptures to support what they believe is correct doctrine. Some people believe this, others believe that. Both call themselves Christian.
Personally, I don't lose sleep over whether people believe what I say or not. I listen to what I feel inside, and to me, that is Christ. Sometimes I feel I get it right, sometimes I feel I've made a mistake. We may change over time, but He doesn't. He has never left us nor forsaken us.
In that case you might to do more listening, and less tearing down the bretheren.
Just an idea.....
Tearing down the ministry of condemnation is one of the reasons I post on hear.When ever you condemn those you believe are sinners, I have got their backs every time, and will continue to do so until you believe the good news of Jesus Christ
So, you are admitting you could be wrong in what you say about universal salvation? In that case I don't see why anyone should listen to what you have to say.
Actually the idea that a person could be wrong does not mean that someone isn't speaking something that is true.
To take the stance that you speak absolute truth does not make you inherantly correct.
In fact, that kind of thing is exactly what my OP is attempting to get a person who takes that approach to address.
When two people with opposing view points takes that approach to what they say what demonstrates that someone is correct from that claim?
Actually the idea that a person could be wrong does not mean that someone isn't speaking something that is true.
To take the stance that you speak absolute truth does not make you inherantly correct.
Well-said.
Blessings,
brian
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