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And Brian that is God speaking for himself,and those who have ears to hear will hear him seeking for himself to his self, just what pneuma said.
Agreed.
Isn't that what the "still small voice" is all about?
Why is it, that having an honest, pure, simple relationship with our Creator divides many people into a) unbelievers and b) fanatics? Shouldn't it be so simple??
The argument of the thread is "how dare you say you speak for God", meaning that you should never say you speak for God, because you might be wrong, or you might offend someone who disagrees with your message. It is another way of saying that it is better not to share your beliefs at all. Some posters just confirmed this by saying "just let God speak for Himself" (yet they post here every day). You agreed with that view, so I ask who you speak for now? Why do preachers preach? Because God wants them to. Should they stop, just because someone disagrees? Of course not. The Bible says some people will be offended by the message, and that is very true.
No, we should speak, and speak boldly
Ephesians 6: 19 Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may declare it fearlessly, as I should.
Last edited by Finn_Jarber; 10-13-2011 at 07:16 AM..
One that does not contradict other scriptures. You don't interpret scripture based on personal preference but based other aspect of scripture. You don't take one word and build you interpretation. As I have said before on other threads scripture interprets scripture. This means don't just rely on one version or interpretation but use several different ones, say KJV, NAS, NIV, there are many to chose from. You can go to literal translations of Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. All are very good tools to help you to understand what the Holy Spirit is guiding you to understand. If you think something contradicts something else within scripture then dig deeper and be willing to accept even that which contradicts your personal beliefs. The problem with most is Self, letting ones self get in the way of truth.
I know my words will get twisted, they always do, but all I desire is to share the truth of scripture to the best of my ability without any ulterior motive other than the truth.
I don't know why you think your words will get twisted, I asked a reasonable question.
I take the same appraoch, but many times I get accused of twisting scripture when all I have done is what you basically have said, I also try not to read into scripture what is not there.
As long as you don't think you are never wrong even if what you believe appears to not contradict then my OP really doesn't apply to you and you will believe what you believe, nothing wrong with that.
Something may be reasoned out to not contradict and it still may be wrong. The best thing we can do is take things one day at a time, if we are wrong we are wrong, no one should fear being wrong if we approach everything with a true desire to find the truth even if everything we think is true is not.
The argument of the thread is "how dare you say you speak for God", meaning that you should never say you speak for God, because you might be wrong, or you might offend someone who disagrees with your message. It is another way of saying that it is better not to share your beliefs at all. Some posters just confirmed this by saying "just let God speak for Himself" (yet they post here every day). You agreed with that view, so I ask who you speak for now? Why do preachers preach? Because God wants them to. Should they stop, just because someone disagrees? Of course not. The Bible says some people will be offended by the message, and that is very true.
No, I'm speaking for what I feel in my heart.
There is a difference between someone speaking what is in their heart, but is not condemning what other people speak from their heart; and someone who says, "I'm holy and speaking God's message, and you're a lost, hell-bound sinner who needs to listen to what I'm saying because I'm speaking for God and you aren't."
If we're willing to admit that we might be wrong, I think we're one step ahead.. Some are not willing, however.. and often it is those types of people who do the most harm to others.
The argument of the thread is "how dare you say you speak for God", meaning that you should never say you speak for God, because you might be wrong, or you might offend someone who disagrees with your message. It is another way of saying that it is better not to share your beliefs at all. Some posters just confirmed this by saying "just let God speak for Himself" (yet they post here every day). You agreed with that view, so I ask who you speak for now? Why do preachers preach? Because God wants them to. Should they stop, just because someone disagrees? Of course not. The Bible says some people will be offended by the message, and that is very true.
Actually you are completely wrong about the intent of the OP. Just reread it and address the questions I posed, it is not complicated.
The argument of the thread is "how dare you say you speak for God", meaning that you should never say you speak for God, because you might be wrong, or you might offend someone who disagrees with your message. It is another way of saying that it is better not to share your beliefs at all. Some posters just confirmed this by saying "just let God speak for Himself" (yet they post here every day). You agreed with that view, so I ask who you speak for now? Why do preachers preach? Because God wants them to. Should they stop, just because someone disagrees? Of course not. The Bible says some people will be offended by the message, and that is very true.
No, we should speak, and speak boldly
Ephesians 6: 19 Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may declare it fearlessly, as I should.
Paul preached good news not a ministry of condemnation,this is why you need ears to hear what God is saying himself.
If you think calling out homosexuals and telling folk if you don't believe in Jesus you are going to eternal torment is preaching good news, then you haven't heard the good news yourself. Go tell the world as an ambassador of Christ that God is not reckoning their sin against them, that will get their attention(cause them to listen) 2 cor 5:19.
I am finding it interesting that those who think they speak for God can't seem to deal with the proposed questioning in the OP, they actually seem to show that their spirit is not of God after all.
They come in accusing and putting words in people mouths acting like it is some kind of attack when I mentioned no names and placed it to all no matter what they happen to believe.
Actually you are completely wrong about the intent of the OP. Just reread it and address the questions I posed, it is not complicated.
The intent is quite clear to me. You can try to dress it up to look like something else, but you did not do a very good job at it.
God wants us to speak, and speak boldly, and NOT listen to posts like the OP, which are designed to make people doubt if they are saying something wrong, or offending someone.
Last edited by Finn_Jarber; 10-13-2011 at 07:48 AM..
Paul preached good news not a ministry of condemnation,this is why you need ears to hear what God is saying himself.
In that case you might to do more listening, and less tearing down the bretheren.
Just an idea.....
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