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To our Creator [who lives outside of this time-line], a period of time is a period of time. It could be a blink of an eye, it could be a day, it could be a thousand years, it could be more.
A billion of torment years might as well be an eternity, if you know what I'm saying.
Since it is tied to the amount of unrepentant unloving damage we are responsible for in this finite life it is hardly plausible that it could be much longer than our mortal lifetime.
In biblical terms, an eon is simply a long indeterminate amount of time.
The hebrew equivalent "olam" was used for the following durations, for example:
- the length of a man's life
- several hundred years
- several thousand years
Yep. I find it odd that ETers often seem glad when they say they believe torment for anyone would last forever without end. Moderator cut: deleteted
"Eons and eons ago, in a universe far far away..."
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
Correction yet again . . . God does NOT punish! There are consequences for our unloving acts. The duration and type of self-inflicted remorse and misery (weeping and gnashing of teeth) is determined by each individual's life experiences, period. God simply removes all our psychological blinders and rationalizations and reveals ALL of our unloving acts that have caused harm to others . . . one-at-a-time . . . and we then experience what we caused. If you have a lot of those and a lot of souls who were affected it could take a while. (Of course, those you have repented of during this life are excluded.)
So uhm... I'm just curious, Mystic: does He consider offsetting those "sinerous" things with a review of the good things we also did? Do we self-review our good deeds as a sort of award? The bumble bee I brushed off my shirtsleeve instead a mashing it? The mouse I pried out of my well-fed cat's genetically-driven & ravenous mouth, and then set "wee-bit moosikee" free? The old lady I helped across the street? (Now why she didn't tip me is still a bother in my mind...)
Because if List B (The Good List...) is longer than List A ("Your Sins"), mayhaps we get to go north instead of south? I can always hope, huh? Even though I'm a Big Old Atheist.. I'm still and always willing to give God a chance once He actually shows up (He's been reliably late otherwise...)
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Originally Posted by hiker45
A billion years of torment? Maybe I will get used to it after a few thousand years, and the rest of the time will go pretty quickly.
Kind of like playing a super-hard golf course. It may upset me to start with three double bogeys, but then I get used to it and enjoy the rest of the round.
My thoughts regarding Hell exactly, hiker!: if you're a normal human being, then the endless torment will rather quickly drive you nutzo, and you wouldn't notice anything any more. (Note the typical delusional mental state of deranged homeless street people! They make up their own little universe, and have their own circle of imaginary friends, as would a hell-dweller for sure!)
But if He magically "converted" you to some sort of endlessly pain-tolerant entity, then what would the point of torment be? After a while, any sort of continuous stimulus loses it's credibility or utility. Patently obvious to any first-year psychology student, and also all of us critical thinkers.
Of course, the point of eternal damnation and forced horrific suffering for "eons" () is to scare folks into mandated compliance. Oh, and maintenance of a tithing mentality of course, let's not ever forget. ().
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
Time is irrelevant.
Ooops; then The Big Bang was, oh....uuuhhhmmmm... who the heck cares how long ago, huh? All we need to know it that, obviously, since we're here, it had to have happened, oh let's just say... "eons" ago!
Since it is tied to the amount of unrepentant unloving damage we are responsible for in this finite life it is hardly plausible that it could be much longer than our mortal lifetime.
Well, it could be possible that if one played a role in the extreme suffering of many people, conceivably one could be punished for many earthly lifetimes. But I actually doubt that is how God works his judgement out because his ways are higher than ours and that is simply my human thinking. But it doesn't hurt to keep that in mind when one is tempted to be unkind or unloving or uncaring about others.
Yes . . . because it is during those times that your consciousness was producing "tares" not "wheat." Our consciousness is the in-process form of our eternal Spirit accumulating within the Universal Field (God's consciousness). Every single instant of our consciousness that is "tares" will be accounted for during the "Eon."
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"Eons and eons ago, in a universe far far away..."
) is to scare folks into mandated compliance. Oh, and maintenance of a tithing mentality of course, let's not ever forget. (
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