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When a corrupt religious organization, uses Jesus Christ's name for businesseS, hides it's finances, becomes powerful, financially & politically - WATCH OUT!
James 1:27 comes to mind.
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
In between eating her Thanksgiving left overs, June has had to delete a large number of posts in this thread. Please remain on topic, everyone. Thread is about tithing, not side bar conversations.
Forestbeekeeper, I'm not going to keep repeating the same scripture & explaining the math. What's more important anyway is going by the greatest commandment - to love others as ourselves. Jesus wasn't so nit-picky about tithes nor about how much to give & when. He just loved as he went along.
The reason I pointed out this Old Testament scripture about 1/3 of tithes being instructed for the poor, is because most Christian organizations accept the Old Testament, yet do not follow even the instruction to give the minimal 1/3 for the poor. Do you think Jesus would give less than 1/3 of what he had for others?
Please post the scripture that indicates this 1/3 tithes is separate from the annual tithe.
I quoted from the King James Version.
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Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
As we love others, we love God.
"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these, ye have done it unto me.
Inasmuch as ye have NOT done it unto one of the least of these, ye have NOT done it unto me." - Matt 25:40, 45
Forestbeekeeper, I'm not going to keep repeating the same scripture & explaining the math. What's more important anyway is going by the greatest commandment - to love others as ourselves. Jesus wasn't so nit-picky about tithes nor about how much to give & when. He just loved as he went along.
The reason I pointed out this Old Testament scripture about 1/3 of tithes being instructed for the poor, is because most Christian organizations accept the Old Testament, yet do not follow even the instruction to give the minimal 1/3 for the poor. Do you think Jesus would give less than 1/3 of what he had for others?
Please post the scripture that indicates this 1/3 tithes is separate from the annual tithe.
I quoted from the King James Version.
I would love to read a Bible passage that explains how anyone is to give 1/3 of their tithe to the poor.
Any Bible passage. As we have been discussing, Please provide us with a Bible passage that supports your claim.
Forestbeekeeper,
I've repeatedly answered you in many different ways, even providing scriptures. If you are truly interested, you'll review my posts in this thread.
You have yet to give any scripture as to what you mentioned about tithes being in addition, or separate from regular tithes.
It's ok. It seems you just want to argue, & I don't. I do enjoy debating - but only if we're actually both learning, not if we're going in circles & not if you won't acknowledge my answers or questions.
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Of course we do need to see after our widows, orphans and poor.
Let's just leave it there. Something we both see clearly.
Forestbeekeeper,
I've repeatedly answered you in many different ways, even providing scriptures.
Not anything showing how the tithes were to be divided, you have not.
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... If you are truly interested, you'll review my posts in this thread.
Yes, and you explained how you have became emotionally connected to the topic of providing for the poor.
I get it.
I am not saying this as an insult to you.
It is terrible that we have poor people, and we should try to help them.
However we can not allow our emotions to rule the day, and effect our reading of God's Word.
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... You have yet to give any scripture as to what you mentioned about tithes being in addition, or separate from regular tithes.
You have posted many times a passage that describes the 3rd year tithe, which is commanded in addition to the annual tithe. Every commentary understands this and discussed how Israel was required every third year to tithe twice of their grain harvests and herds. But it never over-ruled the primary prohibition against the forbidden things.
Do you wish for me to re-post the passage that you so love to post? Is that what you are asking for?
"Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction. Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy." -Proverbs 31:8-9
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