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Old 11-22-2011, 02:11 PM
 
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As Christians, we are instructed to pay 10% of our income for God... for GOoD... for the church to function & for the poor. Churches (& leaders in charge of finance) are responsible for allocating tithing/donation funds properly. Scriptures specifically say that 1/3 of tithing is to be given to help the poor...

"At the end of 3 years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up iwthin thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part no inheritance with thee,) & the stranger, & the fatherless, & the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, & shall eat & be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest." -Deuteronomy 14:28,29

Some churches are open & honest about how they spend tithes. Others keep it secret, like the church I attend. Just recently, I finally realized that in paying tithes without knowing how they were spent was not right. It's particularly upsetting, considering that almost 1,000,000,000 people are starving (that's almost 1/7th of the world's population!). Much work needs to be done & churches have the resources, power & responsibility to help those who are in desperate need. Some churches are, which I admire... other financially wealthy churches show no evidence that they are.

Make sure whichever church you pay tithes/donations to, that at least 1/3 are going to help the poor, so we will not be part of "robbing from God" by robbing from the poor. Malichi 3:8
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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As Christians, we are instructed to pay 10% of our income for God... for GOoD... for the church to function & for the poor. Churches (& leaders in charge of finance) are responsible for allocating tithing/donation funds properly. Scriptures specifically say that 1/3 of tithing is to be given to help the poor...

"At the end of 3 years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up iwthin thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part no inheritance with thee,) & the stranger, & the fatherless, & the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, & shall eat & be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest." -Deuteronomy 14:28,29

Some churches are open & honest about how they spend tithes. Others keep it secret, like the church I attend. Just recently, I finally realized that in paying tithes without knowing how they were spent was not right. It's particularly upsetting, considering that almost 1,000,000,000 people are starving (that's almost 1/7th of the world's population!). Much work needs to be done & churches have the resources, power & responsibility to help those who are in desperate need. Some churches are, which I admire... other financially wealthy churches show no evidence that they are.

Make sure whichever church you pay tithes/donations to, that at least 1/3 are going to help the poor, so we will not be part of "robbing from God" by robbing from the poor. Malichi 3:8
Very sound principle.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me." - Matthew 25:40, 45

I realize many of us already give... just make sure at least 1/3 of that donation is going to help the poor. Or - find a way to donate that does follow this important commandment, which is also fulfilling the greatest commandments - to love others, as ourselves - this is how we show love to God.


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Old 11-22-2011, 02:25 PM
 
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As Christians, we are instructed to pay 10% of our income for God... for GOoD... for the church to function & for the poor. Churches (& leaders in charge of finance) are responsible for allocating tithing/donation funds properly. Scriptures specifically say that 1/3 of tithing is to be given to help the poor...

"At the end of 3 years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up iwthin thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part no inheritance with thee,) & the stranger, & the fatherless, & the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, & shall eat & be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest." -Deuteronomy 14:28,29

Some churches are open & honest about how they spend tithes. Others keep it secret, like the church I attend. Just recently, I finally realized that in paying tithes without knowing how they were spent was not right. It's particularly upsetting, considering that almost 1,000,000,000 people are starving (that's almost 1/7th of the world's population!). Much work needs to be done & churches have the resources, power & responsibility to help those who are in desperate need. Some churches are, which I admire... other financially wealthy churches show no evidence that they are.

Make sure whichever church you pay tithes/donations to, that at least 1/3 are going to help the poor, so we will not be part of "robbing from God" by robbing from the poor. Malichi 3:8

I think most mainstream churches do this
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:58 PM
 
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As Christians, we are instructed to pay 10% of our income for God... for GOoD... for the church to function & for the poor. Churches (& leaders in charge of finance) are responsible for allocating tithing/donation funds properly. Scriptures specifically say that 1/3 of tithing is to be given to help the poor...

"At the end of 3 years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up iwthin thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part no inheritance with thee,) & the stranger, & the fatherless, & the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, & shall eat & be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest." -Deuteronomy 14:28,29
I'm not clear on why you say 1/3 of tithing is to be given to help the poor. Could you explain how you came up with that figure?

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Some churches are open & honest about how they spend tithes. Others keep it secret, like the church I attend. Just recently, I finally realized that in paying tithes without knowing how they were spent was not right. It's particularly upsetting, considering that almost 1,000,000,000 people are starving (that's almost 1/7th of the world's population!). Much work needs to be done & churches have the resources, power & responsibility to help those who are in desperate need. Some churches are, which I admire... other financially wealthy churches show no evidence that they are.
Wow. If I were so distrustful of how my contributions were being used, I wouldn't be paying tithing at all. I hope you're not! It would certainly ease your mind, at any rate, to know that none of your hard-earned money was being used for the wrong purposes. If I were you (and maybe you're already doing this), I would be donating directly to the poor instead of trusting your church to be honest in its allocation of the funds you contribute. You may not be able to say that you were paying a full tithing in that case, but at least you would not be feeling the resentment you feel now.

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Make sure whichever church you pay tithes/donations to, that at least 1/3 are going to help the poor, so we will not be part of "robbing from God" by robbing from the poor. Malichi 3:8
From what I know about your church, I believe it does more to help the poor (on a per capita basis) than almost any church in the world today. You should be proud of its work instead of criticising it.

Here is an excerpt from a recent article in the Washington Post:

•The World Health Organization estimates that 884 million people worldwide don’t have access to clean water. This is a huge problem in Africa, not only because of water-borne diseases but because kids who spend hours each day walking to and from the nearest well to fill old gasoline cans with water cannot attend school. According to church records, in the past seven years, more than four million Africans in 17 countries have gained access to clean drinking water through [your church's] humanitarian efforts to sink or rehabilitate boreholes.

•More than 34,000 physically handicapped African kids now have wheelchairs through the same Church-sponsored humanitarian program. To see a legless child whose knuckles have become calloused through walking on his hands lifted into a wheelchair may be the best way to fully understand the liberation this brings.

•Millions of children, meanwhile, have now been vaccinated against killer diseases like measles as [your] church has sponsored or assisted with projects in 22 African countries.

•More than 126,000 Africans have had their sight restored or improved through [your church's] partnership with African eye care professionals in providing training, equipment and supplies.

•Another 52,000 Africans have been trained to help newborns who otherwise would never take a first breath. Training in neonatal resuscitation has also been a big project for your church in Africa.

Your church comprises .2% of the world's population. For its small size, it does an disproportionate amount of good in this world. Your church's Humanitarian Service ships about 12 million pounds of shoes and clothing, 1 million hygiene kits, and 1 million pounds of medical supplies to relieve suffering in more than 100 countries every year. This is all done with no strings attached. Those who benefit from your donations are, almost exclusively, not members of your Church.

As a matter of fact, back when the tsunami hit Southeast Asia the day after Christmas, 2004, after your church sent food, clothing and medical supplies, they asked the government there, "What else can we do?" The response was that the only other thing the people really needed was spiritual sustanance. Almost all of the people whose lives were affected by the tsunami were Muslim. In the devastation of the tsunami, almost all of them had lost their Korans. Your church immediately shipped thousands of copies of the Koran to the area.

I'm so proud to be a member of my church.

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Old 11-22-2011, 04:57 PM
 
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I don't think we need to funnel our giving through a church. But I do believe we should give to the poor. If people feel that they need to tithe to a church, then they should. But a lot of church money is spent on things that aren't helping anyone other than the "employees of the church". Should churches be businesses with employees and such?
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:14 PM
 
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I don't think we need to funnel our giving through a church. But I do believe we should give to the poor. If people feel that they need to tithe to a church, then they should. But a lot of church money is spent on things that aren't helping anyone other than the "employees of the church". Should churches be businesses with employees and such?
I think it all depends. Sometimes more can get done by a group of people working together for a single goal than just one person at a time trying to accomplish something. For instance I know that the LDS Church frequently works jointly with the Catholic Charities in making sure the needs of the poor are met. I give to the Church, but I also contribute to other worthy causes -- both my time and my money. As far as I'm concerned, whatever works and meets the needs of the less fortunate is good.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:45 PM
 
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Sorry to disagree, but the tithe was only required of OT jews. This is not a requirement for NT Christians. Christians are not required to keep the OT laws, like the food restrictions, worshiping on Sat. etc. Certainly offerings are expected, but there is no amount required for NT Christians.

2Co 9:7 Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:00 PM
 
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It shouldn't have to be expected because it is a necessary part of overcoming the legal rangling about the survival and certain productivity of man's human nature. Finally, I can work in the humanistic importance of human nature to trust and involvement.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:01 PM
 
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As Christians, we are instructed to pay 10% of our income for God... for GOoD... for the church to function & for the poor. Churches (& leaders in charge of finance) are responsible for allocating tithing/donation funds properly. Scriptures specifically say that 1/3 of tithing is to be given to help the poor...

"At the end of 3 years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up iwthin thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part no inheritance with thee,) & the stranger, & the fatherless, & the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, & shall eat & be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest." -Deuteronomy 14:28,29

Some churches are open & honest about how they spend tithes. Others keep it secret, like the church I attend. Just recently, I finally realized that in paying tithes without knowing how they were spent was not right. It's particularly upsetting, considering that almost 1,000,000,000 people are starving (that's almost 1/7th of the world's population!). Much work needs to be done & churches have the resources, power & responsibility to help those who are in desperate need. Some churches are, which I admire... other financially wealthy churches show no evidence that they are.

Make sure whichever church you pay tithes/donations to, that at least 1/3 are going to help the poor, so we will not be part of "robbing from God" by robbing from the poor. Malichi 3:8
I'd much rather see people giving their money straight to the poor instead of to the Sunday morning country club. Just saying...
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