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Old 08-13-2012, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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I am seeing this more and more in today's progressive, enlightened Christianity. More and more Christian churches are picking and choosing what parts of the Bible are the Word of God and what parts aren't according to what is currently politically correct. My question is how do you justify that? In my book, you either believe the Bible is the word of God or you do not, its as simple as that. Picking and choosing is a dangerous slippery slope. It shows a lack of faith and lastly, who are we to decide what is God's word and what is not according to what is PC? Keep in mind I am addressing this question to those who call themselves Christian, not atheists, spiritualists, new age, etc. If you call yourself a Christian and you don't believe the Bible is fully the Word of God, what are you basing your faith on?

For those who pick and choose, how do you respond to 2 Timothy 3:16?

"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness."

To be fair, conservatives aren't off the hook on this either. They have one thing going for them as they accept the entire Bible as the Word of God, but they often take scripture out of context to support a political agenda. 2 Chronicles 7:14 comes to mind as being one of the most misused passages in the Bible (Hint: It's not talking about America).
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:12 AM
 
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One does not have to believe the bible (66 books) are the inerrant Word of God in order to be a believer in Christ. And I will be the first to say that I do not believe that the bible is the Word of God. I do believe Jesus Christ is the Living Word of God. If certain religious zealots of various factions condemn me for that, so what? They have no power over me. God has already justified the unrighteous through the work of Christ, who can condemn me?

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Old 08-14-2012, 12:26 AM
 
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there are some things in the bible, i don't think christians would want to believe.. gang rape, sexism, slavery,blood sacrifices and etc.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:05 AM
 
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there are some things in the bible, i don't think christians would want to believe.. gang rape, sexism, slavery,blood sacrifices and etc.
Not to mention stoning children to death, dashing them against stones, passing them through fire, etc. There is some serious sick and bad ass stuff in that OT, for sure. Things that we would put men in jail for that supposedly God told people to do. I don't believe God said everything that is recorded to be "from him" in the bible. Nor do I care if anyone says that I am condemned for what I believe about the bible. Threats do not shake my faith one iota. I do not dwell in fear nor do I "deal" in fear (use it as a power weapon) as is the habit of some.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:27 AM
 
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Not to mention stoning children to death, dashing them against stones, passing them through fire, etc. There is some serious sick and bad ass stuff in that OT, for sure. Things that we would put men in jail for that supposedly God told people to do. I don't believe God said everything that is recorded to be "from him" in the bible. Nor do I care if anyone says that I am condemned for what I believe about the bible. Threats do not shake my faith one iota. I do not dwell in fear nor do I "deal" in fear (use it as a power weapon) as is the habit of some.
I didn't know that was in there about children
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:56 AM
 
Location: Texas and Arkansas
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To be fair, conservatives aren't off the hook on this either. They have one thing going for them as they accept the entire Bible as the Word of God, but they often take scripture out of context to support a political agenda. 2 Chronicles 7:14 comes to mind as being one of the most misused passages in the Bible (Hint: It's not talking about America).
To pluck something out of context to support a political agenda doesn't sound like a conservative action to me. Perhaps you should reevaluate the group doing this that you think is conservative. Maybe they are neo-cons instead, which is just another word for liberals in the Republican party (which isn't very conservative now-a-days).
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Old 08-14-2012, 08:31 AM
 
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well, most big churches and authors of christian book, choose scripture according to what sells and makes a church building grow.
Me, i believe the bible has become the golden calf of the modern day. people seem to worship it. I believe that the bible has truth, i read it, i study it and i try my best to understand it as God gives enlightnement. There are some things that i have not studied. For example: the trinity. I dont agree nor disagree with it because i have not studied it. I will not believe it just because the modern churches teach it. I have learned that if modern churches teach it, It is most likely not true.
I agree with another poster who said that the word of God is Jesus.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:10 AM
 
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One does not have to believe the bible (66 books) are the inerrant Word of God in order to be a believer in Christ. And I will be the first to say that I do not believe that the bible is the Word of God. I do believe Jesus Christ is the Living Word of God. If certain religious zealots of various factions condemn me for that, so what? They have no power over me. God has already justified the unrighteous through the work of Christ, who can condemn me?
I do not mean to be rude but I feel like you are contradicting yourself. The Bible is the Word of God because the whole theme central around Jesus Christ who is the Living Word of God. I don't think you can separate the two IMO.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:33 AM
 
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My beliefs have become very personal between me and God, so I don't feel the need anymore to think I have to "justify" my beliefs in order to feel validated.

Feeling the peace, love and warmth from knowing He dwells within is the only justification I need..

I truly believe that each of us, as uniquely and individually created as we are, have the ability to seek and find on our own according to the abilities He has given us..

I believe there are many ways[paths] to him beside the books, lectures, words and buildings of man..They help, may even guide some, but (IMO) have driven some from wanting to find Him.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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I am seeing this more and more in today's progressive, enlightened Christianity. More and more Christian churches are picking and choosing what parts of the Bible are the Word of God and what parts aren't according to what is currently politically correct. My question is how do you justify that? In my book, you either believe the Bible is the word of God or you do not, its as simple as that. Picking and choosing is a dangerous slippery slope. It shows a lack of faith and lastly, who are we to decide what is God's word and what is not according to what is PC? Keep in mind I am addressing this question to those who call themselves Christian, not atheists, spiritualists, new age, etc. If you call yourself a Christian and you don't believe the Bible is fully the Word of God, what are you basing your faith on?

For those who pick and choose, how do you respond to 2 Timothy 3:16?

"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness."

To be fair, conservatives aren't off the hook on this either. They have one thing going for them as they accept the entire Bible as the Word of God, but they often take scripture out of context to support a political agenda. 2 Chronicles 7:14 comes to mind as being one of the most misused passages in the Bible (Hint: It's not talking about America).
What a bunch of self-righteous nonsense. Everybody picks and chooses what they emphasize in the Bible. To wit, have you sold all your possessions and given the proceeds to the poor?
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