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You're young, kawg. What if we are just "trying to get the gift back like it was when we first received it?"
(See Padgett's and my remarks above!) But I know what you are saying.
Hey now, I didn't say that I would never have it done! I'm just saying I'm not sure how pleasing it would be to God!
Seriously, If YOU'RE comfortable with it, I think God's ok with it. If there's something there nagging at you about it, then we can just say the Holy Spirit (our little Jiminey Cricket) is trying to tell us something.
Hey now, I didn't say that I would never have it done! I'm just saying I'm not sure how pleasing it would be to God!
Seriously, If YOU'RE comfortable with it, I think God's ok with it. If there's something there nagging at you about it, then we can just say the Holy Spirit (our little Jiminey Cricket) is trying to tell us something.
Oh, like I said, I'm NOT going to have it done! Never say never, but I certainly don't think so. Again, I don't like pain and discomfort
I can't see "choosing" to have them in a mega way like that!
It is interesting, though, as I said, earlier how your perception changes when you start aging and you look in the mirror and realize you don't exactly look like you formerly did... and you wish you did. (At age 35 or even 45, I didn't understand this.) But now I can understand how some people would have the surgery. Sometimes we don't understand someone having something done that we personally don't need. Does that make sense?
There is a lady at my church who lost almost 200 pounds. She worked hard, began eating right and exercised a ton. The weight came off. Once she did all of that, she had excess skin around her stomach. She ended up having a tummy tuck to get rid of it. In this case, I can understand having the surgery. I don't think it is vanity, but more of a convenience to not have to deal with the skin anymore. I also think this is a case of getting the original "gift" back like kaykay mentioned. God didn't give her a gift that was 200 pounds overweight. In this situation, it probably saddened God more for her to let her body get to that point than to have the surgery. (Just so you all know, I have no room to talk about weight issues...struggling with them myself right now...just relaying a story.)
There is a lady at my church who lost almost 200 pounds. She worked hard, began eating right and exercised a ton. The weight came off. Once she did all of that, she had excess skin around her stomach. She ended up having a tummy tuck to get rid of it. In this case, I can understand having the surgery. I don't think it is vanity, but more of a convenience to not have to deal with the skin anymore. I also think this is a case of getting the original "gift" back like kaykay mentioned. God didn't give her a gift that was 200 pounds overweight. In this situation, it probably saddened God more for her to let her body get to that point than to have the surgery. (Just so you all know, I have no room to talk about weight issues...struggling with them myself right now...just relaying a story.)
This may be from my "June perspective" but I think what is written above by dojilynn makes good sense. I don't think a "tummy tuck" would offend god, at least I hope not...Sometimes I think there is a big difference between outright vanity, and simiply wanting to feel good about ourselves, comfortable "in our own skin" (pun intended/unintended!) --If you wanted to transform yourself into an Anna Nicole, that would be one thing. But to feel more "yourself" within your own body, that's something else. It's about you, and how you feel about yourself. And in so doing, how you will continue to feel about your relationship with god. I'm not sure whether you would feel that such a surgery detracted from your relationship with Him or not; only you are able to put that into a truly spiritual perspective...
Oh, and for what it's worth: those photos of June on the "Montana/June" thread? I'm really 85 years old!!!!!
Oh, like I said, I'm NOT going to have it done! Never say never, but I certainly don't think so. Again, I don't like pain and discomfort
I can't see "choosing" to have them in a mega way like that!
It is interesting, though, as I said, earlier how your perception changes when you start aging and you look in the mirror and realize you don't exactly look like you formerly did... and you wish you did. (At age 35 or even 45, I didn't understand this.) But now I can understand how some people would have the surgery. Sometimes we don't understand someone having something done that we personally don't need. Does that make sense?
Oh it makes complete sense. It makes sense to want to get back something we once had. It also makes sense to want something we've NEVER had, but always wanted. I have no problem with those that opt for surgery to make themselves feel better about themselves, but not when it becomes and obsessive compulsive kind of thing...I guess kind of like gambling, eh?
This may be from my "June perspective" but I think what is written above by dojilynn makes good sense. I don't think a "tummy tuck" would offend god, at least I hope not...Sometimes I think there is a big difference between outright vanity, and simiply wanting to feel good about ourselves, comfortable "in our own skin" (pun intended/unintended!) --If you wanted to transform yourself into an Anna Nicole, that would be one thing. But to feel more "yourself" within your own body, that's something else. It's about you, and how you feel about yourself. And in so doing, how you will continue to feel about your relationship with god. I'm not sure whether you would feel that such a surgery detracted from your relationship with Him or not; only you are able to put that into a truly spiritual perspective...
Oh, and for what it's worth: those photos of June on the "Montana/June" thread? I'm really 85 years old!!!!!
--Just kidding!!!
Take gentle care!
That's a great perspective, June! And you're so very right!
hmmmm, I wouldn't have guessed a day over 80! Just kidding!
Oh, and for what it's worth: those photos of June on the "Montana/June" thread? I'm really 85 years old!!!!!
--Just kidding!!!
Take gentle care!
LOL! You know those pics of me on the religion forum family album? They were actually taken at my 150th birthday party! I AM taking gentle care! That's why I look so young there!
Vanity comes under the one of the seven deadly sins called "pride". All of the 7 deady sins tie into each other.The one common factor I see is an obsession with oneself. Its all about me and nobody else nut me.How can you love someone ,when you are wrapped up in yourself? How can you be a sharing person? How can you love God ,when your eyes aren't focused on Him?
Something interesting...are there any Christians that would deem plastic surgery as a sin and if so, please give personal or biblical reasons to explain.
Weather...
would the seriousness of the sin be directly proportional to the size of the nose?
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