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You believe Jesus said "Love your enemies", but He did NOT speak of judgment?
How something is defined, determines its meaning. Perhaps, it's in the realm of how you define judgment verses that of condemnation? I would say that there is righteous judgment, if one is capable of distinguishing between that which is good and right from that which is not.
How something is defined, determines its meaning. Perhaps, it's in the realm of how you define judgment verses that of condemnation? I would say that there is righteous judgment, if one is capable of distinguishing between that which is good and right from that which is not.
No, I do not demand anything from anyone. I've been posting on this forum for years and I'm not an unreasonable person. I only ask people to answer questions that they keep insisting that they have answered, when they have not at all. If someone says "no, I don't know" or "I don't have an answer" or "let me ponder that" or what have you, that's great! THAT is an answer.
But to keep giving vague "answers" that don't even address the question, to me, is NOT an answer and it's not really respectful of the conversation, imho.
Simply saying "judgement" is not an answer, in any way shape or form to the question of:
"How do you RECONCILE Jesus teachings of loving your enemies (and I pointed out all of the scriptures), with the scriptures that are saying that God commanded people to sin by killing, abusing, enslaving their enemies."
That's pretty much what I was saying. No answer will satisfy you.
We're not playing a game, we're trying to have a conversation.
I am clarifying your beliefs to be sure I understand you. When you say "you already know the answer" that's not helping the conversation flow. I don't like to ASSUME anything.
But, since you don't seem to want to talk of reconciling Jesus teachings with God commanding people to kill others, and you seem to want to talk of judgement... what is the purpose of God's judgements?
I already told you what I believe.
As far as resolving this issue, let me expound on my previous answer. There is a way to live: "Love your enemies". There is also justice/judgment. Jesus spoke of it many times. Luke 17 is one example. It is inevitable. Christians will be spared this judgment, because Christ took it in our place.
How something is defined, determines its meaning. Perhaps, it's in the realm of how you define judgment verses that of condemnation? I would say that there is righteous judgment, if one is capable of distinguishing between that which is good and right from that which is not.
As far as resolving this issue, let me expound on my previous answer. There is a way to live: "Love your enemies". There is also justice/judgment. Jesus spoke of it many times. Luke 17 is one example. It is inevitable. Christians will be spared this judgment, because Christ took it in our place.
Now we are starting to get somewhere. I wish you would have expounded about 10 posts ago...
jimmie, you are separating love and judgement. Do you realize this? If God IS love, how can his judgements be SEPARATED from what He is? How can His judgements be rooted in anything else than what he is, which is LOVE?
Remember my last question of "What is the purpose of God's judgements?"
Is it not to produce righteousness? How does committing sin against others produce righteousness??
"How do you RECONCILE Jesus teachings of loving your enemies (and I pointed out all of the scriptures), with the scriptures that are saying that God commanded people to sin by killing, abusing, enslaving their enemies."
You can't sparrow, that is why any attempt to answer it is vague at best.
You can't sparrow, that is why any attempt to answer it is vague at best.
Nonsense. Our society has laws for everyone's good. When someone breaks the law, they are punished, in hopes they will learn from their mistake. However, some folks never learn, or commit crimes so heinous, they must receive the ultimate punishment.
Through the redemptive work of Christ, God offers His love to all (John 3:16). But, as we see later in that chapter, there are those who reject that love, and remain under God's wrath (John 3:36).
sparrow claims Jesus did away with such thinking as what we read about God's wrath in the OT. That could not be farther from the truth.
Luke 17
26 “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.
28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.
30 “It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 31 On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. 32 Remember Lot’s wife! 33 Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35 Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.”
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