There will only be ONE place of safety during the Great Tribulation!
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Readers....at NO point did Gabriel EVER say anything about the antichrist, the man of sin, the abomination of desolation, the lawless one!
So who is it that Gabriel speaks of in Daniel 9?
Christ!
He is the one that is spoken of here;
Dan.9
[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Christ is the one that caused the sacrifice and oblations to cease. And He did it in the midst of a prophetic week; 1 week being 7 years, Christ was killed in the middle of the week (3.5yrs of His ministry). And the sacrifice and oblations that were ceased were those that were no longer needed to be done in the temple after His death. This leaves another 3.5yrs.; The time of Jacobs troubles.
And which time is this?
Dan.12
[1] And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
[7] And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
Which is also this time spoken of by Christ;
Matt.24
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Now tell me....how many times such as this can there be upon the earth? ONLY ONE!
There cannot be TWO parts to the tribulation period. If there is a time that is worse than the first part...then that first part CANNOT be a; (...great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.)
And how long will this time last? Let's read to find out....
Dan.7
[25] And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan.12
[7] And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
Rev.12
[14] And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
And how long is this time, times and half of time frame?
Rev.13
[4] And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
[5] And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev.12
[6] And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
The only place of safety is inside Yahovah/Gods will. Following the living Word, Yeshua/Jesus keeps us in a safe place. We are safe, in that our souls belong to Him. Not to say, that the physical body will not have tribulation, it will. Our soul is safe.
Daniel Chapter 8
1
In the third year of the reign of king
Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me,
even unto me Daniel, after that which
appeared unto me at the first.
2
And I saw in a vision; and it came to
pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan
in the palace, which is in the province of
Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by
the river of Ulai.
3
Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and,
behold, there stood before the river a ram
which had two horns: and the two horns
were high; but one was higher than the
other, and the higher came up last.
4
I saw the ram pushing westward, and
northward, and southward; so that no
beasts might stand before him, neither
was there any that could deliver out of
his hand; but he did according to his will,
and became great.
5
And as I was considering, behold, an he
goat came from the west on the face of
the whole earth, and touched not the
ground: and the goat had a notable horn
between his eyes.
6
And he came to the ram that had two
horns, which I had seen standing before
the river, and ran unto him in the fury of
his power.
7
And I saw him come close unto the ram,
and he was moved with choler against
him, and smote the ram, and brake his
two horns: and there was no power in the
ram to stand before him, but he cast him
down to the ground, and stamped upon
him: and there was none that could
deliver the ram out of his hand.
8
Therefore the he goat waxed very great:
and when he was strong, the great horn
was broken; and for it came up four
notable ones toward the four winds of
heaven.
9
And out of one of them came forth a little
horn, which waxed exceeding great,
toward the south, and toward the east,
and toward the pleasant land.
10
And it waxed great, even to the host of
heaven; and it cast down some of the
host and of the stars to the ground, and
stamped upon them.
11
Yea, he magnified himself even to the
prince of the host, and by him the daily
sacrifice was taken away, and the place
of his sanctuary was cast down.
12
And an host was given him against the
daily sacrifice by reason of
transgression, and it cast down the truth
to the ground; and it practised, and
prospered.
13
Then I heard one saint speaking, and
another saint said unto that certain saint
which spake, How long shall be the
vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and
the transgression of desolation, to give
both the sanctuary and the host to be
trodden under foot?
14
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand
and three hundred days; then shall the
sanctuary be cleansed.
15
And it came to pass, when I, even I
Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought
for the meaning, then, behold, there
stood before me as the appearance of a
man.
16
And I heard a man's voice between the
banks of Ulai, which called, and said,
Gabriel, make this man to understand the
vision.
17
So he came near where I stood: and when
he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my
face: but he said unto me, Understand, O
son of man: for at the time of the end
shall be the vision.
18
Now as he was speaking with me, I was
in a deep sleep on my face toward the
ground: but he touched me, and set me
upright.
19
And he said, Behold, I will make thee
know what shall be in the last end of the
indignation: for at the time appointed the
end shall be.
20
The ram which thou sawest having two
horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
21
And the rough goat is the king of Grecia:
and the great horn that is between his
eyes is the first king.
22
Now that being broken, whereas four
stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand
up out of the nation, but not in his power.
23
And in the latter time of their kingdom,
when the transgressors are come to the
full, a king of fierce countenance, and
understanding dark sentences, shall
stand up.
24
And his power shall be mighty, but not by
his own power: and he shall destroy
wonderfully, and shall prosper, and
practise, and shall destroy the mighty
and the holy people.
25
And through his policy also he shall
cause craft to prosper in his hand; and
he shall magnify himself in his heart, and
by peace shall destroy many: he shall
also stand up against the Prince of
princes; but he shall be broken without
hand.
26
And the vision of the evening and the
morning which was told is true:
wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it
shall be for many days.
27
And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain
days; afterward I rose up, and did the
king's business; and I was astonished at
the vision, but none understood it.
This prophecy consists of things to be
fulfilled at the end of time. The Ram was
the Media Persian Empire which was
overcome by Greece under Alexander the
Great. Then Greece was divided into four
kingdoms. The king of fierce
countenance will be the Antichrist who
will sign a 7 year peace treaty with Israel,
and after 3 1/2 years, he will break the
treaty, and set himself up in the temple,
proclaiming to be God, and cause all
those on earth to receive the mark of the
beast 666. He will be destroyed by the
Lord Jesus Christ at His second advent.
As we get closer to the time of the end,
this prophecy will speak
In the spiritual realm some thoughts are
not ready to be revealed to men and
women because of maturity of the spirit.
The spirit will reveal it when it is time to
speak, and then spiritually mature saints
should receive the word; like being on
milk and then ready for meat
The ram which thou sawest having two
horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
21 And the rough goat is the king of
Grecia: and the great horn that is
between his eyes is the first king. Kings
being plural can refer to the Nations that
support Media and Persia which could
be Iran, Russia and Turkey. I believe
Israel will not make a first strike against
Iran because they would let the
backing of NATO. Syria will be
overthrown and the rebels will set up a
new Syria: "their first goal is to get rid of
Assad. Then they want a state where the
Quran is the only source of law." Peace
will be proclaimed in Syria stopping
further military action. Shortly after this
event, Turkey and Greece will have a
battle in Cyprus over land/oil rights and
Israel will act in defense of Greece.
(Israel= "the great horn that is between
his eyes is the first king.") This will be a
pivotal move for the Muslims to use to
attack Israel. Israel will be attacked from
all sides. NATO will come in to defend
Greece/Cyprus as Turkey at this point,
supported by other Muslim nations, will
continue the fight in a second assault.
(Greece and Israel win the first attack) I
believe it will be Germany, France, Great
Britain and the US that gets into the fight
to defend Greece. World War 3 erupts in
full force. "In the latter time of their
kingdom"... I think that means after
NATO has to sign a World War 3 Peace
Treaty that makes a one world
government ruled by Wahhabi law."... by
peace shall destroy many" means
everyone that refuses to be ruled by
Wahhabi law will be destroyed. Some
people may think that Turkey will never
attack Cyprus because they are a NATO
nation but they want possession of
Cyprus, actually they want all of Greece.
They also have attempted to join Russia
and China as a part of the Shanghai
Cooperation agreement. Turkey does not
want to be ruled by the Muslim
Brotherhood. Muslim Brotherhood will
rule Syria and Turkey will fear the same
thing that happened to Syria will happen
to them. I believe Turkey will leave NATO
when the war starts and join Iran, Russia
and China to fight the USA. Saudi Arabia
will wait until after other nations military
is destroyed or reduced to a weakened
state, then they will step in as a
controlling power.
Readers....at NO point did Gabriel EVER say anything about the antichrist, the man of sin, the abomination of desolation, the lawless one!
So who is it that Gabriel speaks of in Daniel 9?
Christ!
He is the one that is spoken of here;
Dan.9
[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Christ is the one that caused the sacrifice and oblations to cease. And He did it in the midst of a prophetic week; 1 week being 7 years, Christ was killed in the middle of the week (3.5yrs of His ministry). And the sacrifice and oblations that were ceased were those that were no longer needed to be done in the temple after His death. This leaves another 3.5yrs.; The time of Jacobs troubles.
And which time is this?
Dan.12
[1] And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
[7] And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
Which is also this time spoken of by Christ;
Matt.24
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Now tell me....how many times such as this can there be upon the earth? ONLY ONE!
There cannot be TWO parts to the tribulation period. If there is a time that is worse than the first part...then that first part CANNOT be a; (...great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.)
And how long will this time last? Let's read to find out....
Dan.7
[25] And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan.12
[7] And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
Rev.12
[14] And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
And how long is this time, times and half of time frame?
Rev.13
[4] And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
[5] And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev.12
[6] And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
3.5 years!
.
Greetings,
Again folks , ( Readers) its why I stated in post # 89 to incorperate chapter 8 with chapter 9 of Daniel
There are only 7 cronlogical order of events that bring Christ Jesus
2nd comming.
No rapture
Satan comes befor Jesus claiming to be Jesus.
Satan comes on 666
Jesus comes on 777
These numbers are trumps, seals, vials
Taught in the book of Revelation
Explained in Matthew 24 by Jesus
Satans message Come worship me I've come to fly you away
(Rapture Doctrine)
Jesus teaches if they say I'm here Dont go. Matt 24
6 comes befor 7 ( readers)
I believe it is more of a spiritual space than a physical location. When the Great Tribulation comes God is not going to take up the unworthy bunch simply because they show up at certain location. It is not a cab ride. It doesn’t work that way. It is like searching for the Holy Grail or Norah’s ark, what is the point religiously?
Hello, and this is a re posting of Ecc12v13 which I largely agree with, and will become the true end time belief.
Thead;
Did you know that Jesus gave the saints information concerning the ONLY place one can go to be protected during the Great Tribulation?
The question is, "Will you trust your God and His words and do as instructed, or will you wait and trust in the false teachings of man and wait on the "rapture"?
For those that are alive...this will be one of the biggest choices you will probably ever have to make; Stay and wait for something that God's word NEVER says will happen (the man-made doctrine of the 'rapture'), or do as Jesus tells you and FLEE? Let's read.....
Matt.24
[15] When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
[16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
[17] Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[18] Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
[19] And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
[20] But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Jesus warns us that when we see those things happening that was spoken by Daniel, mainly, the son of perdiction as Paul calls him, the saints are to flee to the mountains surrounding Judaea.
Jesus warns us that fleeing is so important, that when we see the man of sin placed in the newly built temple in Jerusalem, we are not to go back for clothes or return home for anything.....we are to make haste and get to His place of safety; the mountains surrounding Judaea.
And why does He tell us this with such urgency? Well....let's read what will come upon the entire world when this man of sin is placed into the temple.....
Matt.24
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Jesus warns us that once the man is placed into the temple, there will come upon the earth a time of troubles that will be so bad, there has NEVER been a time like it before and there will NEVER be a time like it ever again.
Now let me ask you something.....how many times can such a time happen? Only ONCE!
Now tell me.....do you and your family really want to experience a time such as this? Do you want to risk the lives of your family on a man-made doctrine of a 'secret rapture', that God's word NEVER says will happen before the Great Tribulation period?
That's a BIG risk!
Jesus tells His saints to flee! Will you do as instructed, thus saving your family? Or will you let the new house, bank account, cars or what friends and family say keep you here to suffer with the rest of those that refused to listen to the word of God?
Will you flee to God's place of safety and be a child of Light.....or will you stay and suffer and take the mark of the Beast?
Remember this if nothing else;
1. A temple WILL be built!
2. Sacrifices WILL begin once again!
3. A man that claims peace WILL be placed in the newly built temple and
stop the sacrifices!
When you see all that God has warned us about.....what will YOU do?
You do have a choice!
Flee to the mountains surrounding Judaea and save you and your family? Or stay and wait for man's false secret 'rapture'?
Hello, and this is a re posting of Ecc12v13 which I largely agree with, and will become the true end time belief.
Thead;
Did you know that Jesus gave the saints information concerning the ONLY place one can go to be protected during the Great Tribulation?
The question is, "Will you trust your God and His words and do as instructed, or will you wait and trust in the false teachings of man and wait on the "rapture"?
For those that are alive...this will be one of the biggest choices you will probably ever have to make; Stay and wait for something that God's word NEVER says will happen (the man-made doctrine of the 'rapture'), or do as Jesus tells you and FLEE? Let's read.....
Matt.24
[15] When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
[16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
[17] Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[18] Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
[19] And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
[20] But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Jesus warns us that when we see those things happening that was spoken by Daniel, mainly, the son of perdiction as Paul calls him, the saints are to flee to the mountains surrounding Judaea.
Jesus warns us that fleeing is so important, that when we see the man of sin placed in the newly built temple in Jerusalem, we are not to go back for clothes or return home for anything.....we are to make haste and get to His place of safety; the mountains surrounding Judaea.
And why does He tell us this with such urgency? Well....let's read what will come upon the entire world when this man of sin is placed into the temple.....
Matt.24
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Jesus warns us that once the man is placed into the temple, there will come upon the earth a time of troubles that will be so bad, there has NEVER been a time like it before and there will NEVER be a time like it ever again.
Now let me ask you something.....how many times can such a time happen? Only ONCE!
Now tell me.....do you and your family really want to experience a time such as this? Do you want to risk the lives of your family on a man-made doctrine of a 'secret rapture', that God's word NEVER says will happen before the Great Tribulation period?
That's a BIG risk!
Jesus tells His saints to flee! Will you do as instructed, thus saving your family? Or will you let the new house, bank account, cars or what friends and family say keep you here to suffer with the rest of those that refused to listen to the word of God?
Will you flee to God's place of safety and be a child of Light.....or will you stay and suffer and take the mark of the Beast?
Remember this if nothing else;
1. A temple WILL be built!
2. Sacrifices WILL begin once again!
3. A man that claims peace WILL be placed in the newly built temple and
stop the sacrifices!
When you see all that God has warned us about.....what will YOU do?
You do have a choice!
Flee to the mountains surrounding Judaea and save you and your family? Or stay and wait for man's false secret 'rapture'?
This was speaking about Titus...
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