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Old 08-05-2013, 03:02 PM
 
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Do you believe Jesus Christ destroyed him who HAD the power over death ?. If you do, why is it you are always talking about sin and death ?.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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Hebrews 2:15 And also that He might deliver and completely set free all those who through the [haunting] fear of death were held in bondage throughout the whole course of their lives.

He is the liberator of all who are held captive by the fear of death.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:55 PM
 
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Jesus has not yet destroyed the devil who has power over death , but Jesus has with people who are obedient been given the authority to claim the spirits and soul of those which by the cross of Christ and will protect their lives and soul and spirit beyond the life on earth ..............., God did not have the authority to claim people souls and spirits before the cross , and only by the direct lead of God that people saved by the promise of Jesus to come , as the angels and Holy Spirit were limited before the cross in the power to protect anyone .... See the power of the devil who has power over death will continue to the great Judgment of the last day ...........See when you see people dying in like in Syria, If Jesus does not have His spirit on people who are dying there , then the soul of these people will also die and their spirit will be collected by God`s Holy Angels and brought to a place not in heaven so to speak , and when Jesus has His Spirit on a believer , their soul and spirit will be collected and protected and brought to a place Jesus prepared for the development for eternal life with God ..........People may talk about the eternal hell because this is the fear of God and believers are called to help all to get their eternal life as the devil still has power over death for the sinner who reject Lord Jesus Christ ......God don`t change yesterday, today and tomorrow, and liberal thought will not heed the Lord in any way ....
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:59 PM
 
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Jesus has not yet destroyed the devil who has power over death , but Jesus has with people who are obedient been given the authority to claim the spirits and soul of those which by the cross of Christ and will protect their lives and soul and spirit beyond the life on earth ..............., God did not have the authority to claim people souls and spirits before the cross , and only by the direct lead of God that people saved by the promise of Jesus to come , as the angels and Holy Spirit were limited before the cross in the power to protect anyone .... See the power of the devil who has power over death will continue to the great Judgment of the last day ...........See when you see people dying in like in Syria, If Jesus does not have His spirit on people who are dying their , then the soul of these people will also die and their spirit will be collected by God`s Holy Angels and brought to a place not in heaven so to speak , and when Jesus has His Spirit on a believer , their soul and spirit will be collected and protected and brought to a place Jesus prepared for the development for eternal life with God ..........People may take about the eternal hell because this is the fear of God and believers are called to help all to get their eternal life as the devil still has power over death for the sinner who reject Lord Jesus Christ ......God don`t change yesterday, today and tomorrow, and liberal thought will not heed the Lord in any way ....
Wasn't quite the answer I was expecting . By the way did you know that your bible says he's destroyed him who had the power over death, you will find it in Hebrews chapter 2 verse 14.
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Old 08-05-2013, 04:29 PM
 
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Hebrews 2:15 And also that He might deliver and completely set free all those who through the [haunting] fear of death were held in bondage throughout the whole course of their lives.

He is the liberator of all who are held captive by the fear of death.
Good verse for showing that all will eventually be delivered from death.
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Old 08-05-2013, 04:37 PM
 
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Do you believe Jesus Christ destroyed him who HAD the power over death ?. If you do, why is it you are always talking about sin and death ?.
Because anyone can still choose to believe in Jesus or not. If you choose not to believe in Him then you are choosing the tree of knowledge instead of the tree of life which is Jesus.
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Old 08-05-2013, 04:51 PM
 
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Because anyone can still choose to believe in Jesus or not. If you choose not to believe in Him then you are choosing the tree of knowledge instead of the tree of life which is Jesus.
Do you believe that Jesus Christ destroyed him who had the power over death ?
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:05 PM
 
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Do you believe that Jesus Christ destroyed him who had the power over death ?
Yes, but many don't. When Adam ate the fruit God told him not to eat he was not believing God's word to be truth when God told him he would surely die and look at the consequence he and the world to now and until Jesus' return has suffered. Rejecting Jesus is believing God's word to be a lie, which is blaspheme. When you believe in Jesus you are born again and receive forgiveness of sins. Jesus conquered death for us, but if you don't believe that then you don't receive forgiveness of sins. It has been accomplished, but will everyone receive it? Its their choice.
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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Yes, but many don't. When Adam ate the fruit God told him not to eat he was not believing God's word to be truth when God told him he would surely die and look at the consequence he and the world to now and until Jesus' return has suffered. Rejecting Jesus is believing God's word to be a lie, which is blaspheme. When you believe in Jesus you are born again and receive forgiveness of sins. Jesus conquered death for us, but if you don't believe that then you don't receive forgiveness of sins. It has been accomplished, but will everyone receive it? Its their choice.
Death is destroyed........... Let that sink in. You can't send those you believe aren't saved somewhere that's been destroyed ?.

If death is destroyed,what can death do to you unless you fear it ?.
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:18 PM
 
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Death is destroyed........... Let that sink in. You can't send those you believe aren't saved somewhere that's been destroyed ?.

If death is destroyed,what can death do to you unless you fear it ?.
So are you saying the devil and the fallen angels will eventually end up in Heaven too? The lake of fire is a place, not death itself.
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