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Original sin was theoretically manufactured by religion based on the accurate attempt to identify the fact we are
humans with a sinful nature. Trinity was coined by the early church to add a comparison or aonther way of saying
the Godhead (Tri=3) or triune and it aids in clarification of a difficult to explain mystery . I believe most Christians
don't have a clue how to present the trinity or can they debate it as it takes a rather complicate script when confronted by un-
believers not withstanding pagans ,atheists and agnostics. I personally cannot grasp the need for infants to be bap-
tized as a means of washing away original sin since they cannot repent for "recognized sin" and anyone believing
they woudl be damned are steeped in religiosity to a level of losing a grip on Gods mercy and instruction on baptism.
Religion can be a bondage created by man NOT God!
Where does it say about the original sin, and when was it made up? Thanks
If you're truly interested you might want to skim Works of Jonathan Edwards, Volume One and/or THE ESSENCE OF ORIGINAL SIN by Thomas Aquinas, which is but a small amount of his entire writing on the subject. Both are excellent and required reading when I was in college.
Where does it say about the original sin, and when was it made up? Thanks
You won't see anything about original sin written by the church fathers until the fourth century. The doctrine of original sin is not in the Scriptures.
IMHO, if the church fathers haven't written about a particular doctrine from the beginning of church history, chances are it's the doctrine of men.
A false doctrine you won't find in early church history is Unconditional Election. It's not there. No church father wrote about it until many centuries later.
If you're truly interested you might want to skim Works of Jonathan Edwards, Volume One and/or THE ESSENCE OF ORIGINAL SIN by Thomas Aquinas, which is but a small amount of his entire writing on the subject. Both are excellent and required reading when I was in college.
Can you show it in the earliest church history? The earliest I see the doctrine showing up is the fourth century.
So does original sin mean the sin that was given to mankind after Adam and Eve ate from the tree of wisdom, or does it mean sin from your own conception?
So does original sin mean the sin that was given to mankind after Adam and Eve ate from the tree of wisdom, or does it mean sin from your own conception?
It was Not the tree of wisdom, but of knowledge of good and bad.
Once they disobeyed God by eating they were Not wiser, but were now going to choose in their own eyes what was considered as good or what they considered as bad. No longer listening to God as to what was good or bad.
The ' original ' sin for man was disobedience to God. Adam broke God law. God's law was the law of the land.
By breaking God's law Adam lost his healthy human perfection, and by his loss of health Adam then passed down to us his then imperfect DNA. We pass that down to our offspring. Every parent knows at the birth of a child that its leanings will be toward wrongdoing.
If we could stop sinning we would Not die. Because we sin we die.
We can Not resurrect oneself or another so we need someone who can do that for us. Jesus can and he will.
- Revelation 1 v 18; Acts 24 v 15; John 5 vs 28,29
It was Not the tree of wisdom, but of knowledge of good and bad.
Once they disobeyed God by eating they were Not wiser, but were now going to choose in their own eyes what was considered as good or what they considered as bad. No longer listening to God as to what was good or bad.
The ' original ' sin for man was disobedience to God. Adam broke God law. God's law was the law of the land.
By breaking God's law Adam lost his healthy human perfection, and by his loss of health Adam then passed down to us his then imperfect DNA. We pass that down to our offspring. Every parent knows at the birth of a child that its leanings will be toward wrongdoing.
If we could stop sinning we would Not die. Because we sin we die.
We can Not resurrect oneself or another so we need someone who can do that for us. Jesus can and he will.
- Revelation 1 v 18; Acts 24 v 15; John 5 vs 28,29
It was Not the tree of wisdom, but of knowledge of good and bad.
Once they disobeyed God by eating they were Not wiser, but were now going to choose in their own eyes what was considered as good or what they considered as bad. No longer listening to God as to what was good or bad.
The ' original ' sin for man was disobedience to God. Adam broke God law. God's law was the law of the land.
By breaking God's law Adam lost his healthy human perfection, and by his loss of health Adam then passed down to us his then imperfect DNA. We pass that down to our offspring. Every parent knows at the birth of a child that its leanings will be toward wrongdoing.
If we could stop sinning we would Not die. Because we sin we die.
We can Not resurrect oneself or another so we need someone who can do that for us. Jesus can and he will.
- Revelation 1 v 18; Acts 24 v 15; John 5 vs 28,29
I've heard the concept that "the whole creation fell" with Adam and Eve and that's why animals also die. So that would mean that before the fall...animals didn't die...and trees didn't die, etc.
But that's hard to reconcile with all the archaeological data going back millions of years. Even if one believes in Creationism you still have to realize that creatures ALWAYS died. Even stars die...eventually...and some of them quicker than others. Everything in this material realm passes, or changes form like this.
However! There is also the idea that we "fell into materialism" and that before the Fall of Man we were in a perfect balance with God...much like that place would be which is half-way between the material world and the dream state...kind of an Astral Heaven. So in that way...it could make sense. But we still have all of this "archaeological history" to contend with. How did it get there. Did it just appear by magic after the Fall???
Where does it say about the original sin, and when was it made up? Thanks
I happened about 6 or 7 thousand years ago when the first man and woman sinned. That's when it was made up. When it actually happened. It tells about it in the first book that God dictated to Moses that we call the book of Genesis.
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