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Old 04-30-2014, 09:23 AM
 
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They had to pick a day to celebrate Jesus's birthday. BTW, celebrating Jesus's birthday is not biblical, but it is a thing 99% of Christians do.

BTW, the term Easter has pagan origins in the anglo-saxon world and relates to a Goddess. However, the real term is Pascha and this is not pagan.
Why did "they" have to pick a day to celebrate Jesus's birthday? Where is the mandate for this? And can you prove that "99% of Christians" observe a birthday celebration for Jesus? I would like to see that documented.
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Old 04-30-2014, 09:51 AM
 
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As we do not know the exact date of Christ’s birth, the date of December 25 for Christmas may have been arbitrary. The Church could have chosen another date on which to celebrate the birth of Christ. One reason December 25 may have been deemed suitable is its proximity to the winter solstice. After that date the days start to become longer, and thus it is at the beginning of a season of light entering the world (cf. John 1:5). The summer solstice—after which the days start to get shorter—falls near June 24, on which the Church celebrates the birth of John the Baptist, who declared of Christ, "He must increase, but I must decrease" (John 3:30).

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Old 04-30-2014, 10:14 AM
 
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As we do not know the exact date of Christ’s birth, the date of December 25 for Christmas may have been arbitrary. The Church could have chosen another date on which to celebrate the birth of Christ. One reason December 25 may have been deemed suitable is its proximity to the winter solstice. After that date the days start to become longer, and thus it is at the beginning of a season of light entering the world (cf. John 1:5). The summer solstice—after which the days start to get shorter—falls near June 24, on which the Church celebrates the birth of John the Baptist, who declared of Christ, "He must increase, but I must decrease" (John 3:30).

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Using Scripture we can identify the end of Sept first of OCT as the time.

The pagans were already celebrating that date, Mithras birthday, so it was chosen to make converted pagans feel better. God's and Jesus' feelings were not considered.
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:17 AM
 
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Why did "they" have to pick a day to celebrate Jesus's birthday? Where is the mandate for this? And can you prove that "99% of Christians" observe a birthday celebration for Jesus? I would like to see that documented.
Maybe it is not 99%, perhaps it is only 96%. It is just an observation; lets say the vast majority of Christians celebrate Christmas. There are a few like you and the JWs, but they are in the minority.

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Old 04-30-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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God's and Jesus' feelings were not considered.
And rightfully so! God is not insecure!
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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Using Scripture we can identify the end of Sept first of OCT as the time.

The pagans were already celebrating that date, Mithras birthday, so it was chosen to make converted pagans feel better. God's and Jesus' feelings were not considered.
It was not make them feel better. It was to convert them.

Christians converted pagan temples, pagan feast days, and the pagan people themselves.

And the process worked. Today, the birth of Jesus is celebrated on December 25 while Mithras is consigned to dusty books and crusty history professors.
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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It was not make them feel better. It was to convert them.

Christians converted pagan temples, pagan feast days, and the pagan people themselves.

And the process worked. Today, the birth of Jesus is celebrated on December 25 while Mithras is consigned to dusty books and crusty history professors.
I agree!

Many take for granted the amazing work of the early Church. They converted the Roman Empire and all of Europe. That is not small potatoes!
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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I agree!

Many take for granted the amazing work of the early Church. They converted the Roman Empire and all of Europe. That is not small potatoes!
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:34 AM
 
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I agree!

Many take for granted the amazing work of the early Church. They converted the Roman Empire and all of Europe. That is not small potatoes!
Then led and blessed them in killing their christian brothers. A work of Satan.
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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And the CC is the greatest most influential institution in Western Civilization, I agree!
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