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Old 04-29-2014, 12:43 PM
 
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As you wish . . . but I think having to relive and experience everything you "dished out" (either knowingly or unknowingly) to everyone you hurt in life might be a VERY tedious "regret" class. As you become enlightened and truly feel the righteousness and power of pure agape love .. . and then contrast it with your life and attitudes while learning what it feels like to be on the receiving end . . . you might not be so dismissive of it as a consequence (weeping and gnashing of teeth).
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People are already living with it, so what you are talking about sounds like an ordinary day.
But they are not living with it while in their human mind . . . not knowing and completely understanding through the eyes of God and pure agape love. Of course, while still in the corrupt state of mind they have no basis of comparison and are oblivious. There will be no such obliviousness after death and no human excuses and rationalizations to rely on. Shame will be absolute.

 
Old 04-29-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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OSAS from ET is a license to sin,but of cause those that do, were never saved in the first place.
I am sorry the earlier explanation escaped you.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 12:57 PM
 
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Everyone sins after enlightenment, so option #3 would exclude the faithful. Or perhaps you are not talking about slips, but the return to a lifestyle which is willfully & habitually sinful with no repentance.
Correct, the voluntary return to a sinful lifestyle and no repentance.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 12:59 PM
 
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No, I got it the first time. Of course it is a license to sin, because you can choose to go through your life sinning, and hating god, and after death you take the "regret" class, and be good to go.
Hey sounds like fun. Think of all thee things you could do and then............ when standing before God, say I was wrong. Great teaching, isn't it.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 01:00 PM
 
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He created all things good
Yes, and even Hell/Sheol which is just the grave and ... not hot.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 01:01 PM
 
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As you wish . . . but I think having to relive and experience everything you "dished out" (either knowingly or unknowingly) to everyone you hurt in life might be a VERY tedious "regret" class. As you become enlightened and truly feel the righteousness and power of pure agape love .. . and then contrast it with your life and attitudes while learning what it feels like to be on the receiving end . . . you might not be so dismissive of it as a consequence (weeping and gnashing of teeth).
No need to relive it, I feel it now and have changed. Sop no need for a special future where we feel it again. God gave us the ability to feel it now and ... repent.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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As you wish . . . but I think having to relive and experience everything you "dished out" (either knowingly or unknowingly) to everyone you hurt in life might be a VERY tedious "regret" class. As you become enlightened and truly feel the righteousness and power of pure agape love .. . and then contrast it with your life and attitudes while learning what it feels like to be on the receiving end . . . you might not be so dismissive of it as a consequence (weeping and gnashing of teeth).
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People are already living with it, so what you are talking about sounds like an ordinary day.
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But they are not living with it while in their human mind . . . not knowing and completely understanding through the eyes of God and pure agape love. Of course, while still in the corrupt state of mind they have no basis of comparison and are oblivious. There will be no such obliviousness after death and no human excuses and rationalizations to rely on. Shame will be absolute.
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Hey sounds like fun. Think of all thee things you could do and then............ when standing before God, say I was wrong. Great teaching, isn't it.
Your idea of fun and mine are vastly different . . . or you have not been following my discourse with Finn.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 01:06 PM
 
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But they are not living with it while in their human mind . . . not knowing and completely understanding through the eyes of God and pure agape love. Of course, while still in the corrupt state of mind they have no basis of comparison and are oblivious. There will be no such obliviousness after death and no human excuses and rationalizations to rely on. Shame will be absolute.
Mystic, I don't think people truly understand the ramifications of reaping what you sow. Thus it is brushed off as some sort of "regret class".

In many minds the only punishment that would do is eternal burning, because that is fair.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 01:06 PM
 
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Yes, and even Hell/Sheol which is just the grave and ... not hot.
Do you have a scripture that God created the grave.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 01:09 PM
 
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But they are not living with it while in their human mind . . . not knowing and completely understanding through the eyes of God and pure agape love. Of course, while still in the corrupt state of mind they have no basis of comparison and are oblivious. There will be no such obliviousness after death and no human excuses and rationalizations to rely on. Shame will be absolute.
I understand what you are trying to say, but I do not agree. This must be one of those things the spirit has told you, but is not recorded in the Bible.
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