Were you told you are saved? (crucifixion, church, believe, sin)

[kjw47]

I believe a mortal would have to be able to do 1 of 3 things in order to tell another--you are saved( born again)

1) see the name written in the book of life---He cannot
2) he must be able to read the true heart--he cannot
3) he must be able to see the future and see who endured till the end---he cannot.

The true bottom line of being saved---those who endure till the end( death or har-mageddon) will be saved. Matt 10:22

Paul likened it to a race--must run with endurance--one must cross the finish line. 1Cor 9:24--or one could be disapproved.

Thus only in theory can a mortal reason that another is saved--but they do not know. beware these teachers--2Corinthians 11:12-15

[Mikelee81]

Do you ever remember a time where you received Christ and a dramatic change occurred in your life? Things like you became very interested in learning about God through His Word and a desire to live for Christ in obedience to His Word?

[JJ_Maxx]

Originally Posted by kjw47

I believe a mortal would have to be able to do 1 of 3 things in order to tell another--you are saved( born again)

1) see the name written in the book of life---He cannot
2) he must be able to read the true heart--he cannot
3) he must be able to see the future and see who endured till the end---he cannot.

The true bottom line of being saved---those who endure till the end( death or har-mageddon) will be saved. Matt 10:22

Paul likened it to a race--must run with endurance--one must cross the finish line. 1Cor 9:24--or one could be disapproved.

Thus only in theory can a mortal reason that another is saved--but they do not know. beware these teachers--2Corinthians 11:12-15

"Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?"

[.sparrow.]

So what happens to those who aren't "saved"?

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by JJ_Maxx

"Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?"

Nor can your be righteous while you are sin conscious, whether that be conscious of it in yourself or others.

[JJ_Maxx]

Originally Posted by pcamps

Nor can your be righteous while you are sin conscious, whether that be conscious of it in yourself or others.

Book of Pcamps again. I'll stick with Gods Word over yours. Moderator cut: Don't call anybody a troll

[gentlearts]

I was raised in a northern Baptist church. The term "saved" was not a part of the jargon. To me, it is a fundamentalist, made up expression.

[JJ_Maxx]

Originally Posted by .sparrow.

So what happens to those who aren't "saved"?

Same thing that happens to people who are drowning who aren't saved. They perish.

[MysticPhD]

I simply do NOT understand all this preoccupation with being saved . . . since WE have nothing to do with it. WE are NOT our saviors . . . Christ IS and it is finished. We don't need to do the lifeguard's job. We just need to appreciate the life we have and spread His love as far and wide as we can as our sign of gratitude. His agape love was so perfect He voluntarily endured horrendous scourging and crucifixion . . . while still loving and forgiving even His torturers and murderers!!! "No greater love . . ." We should be ashamed at not trying to achieve some small imperfect agape love in His honor. How hard is it to "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't? Not remotely as difficult as what Christ achieved.

[JJ_Maxx]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

I simply do NOT understand all this preoccupation with being saved . . . since WE have nothing to do with it. WE are NOT our saviors . . . Christ IS and it is finished. We don't need to do the lifeguard's job. We just need to appreciate the life we have and spread His love as far and wide as we can as our sign of gratitude. His agape love was so perfect He voluntarily endured horrendous scourging and crucifixion . . . while still loving and forgiving even His torturers and murderers!!! "No greater love . . ." We should be ashamed at not trying to achieve some small imperfect agape love in His honor. How hard is it to "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't? Not remotely as difficult as what Christ achieved.

Moderator cut: personal attack It is not us who saves but Christ, however, Christ has told us we must make a choice. Not everyone will be saved. Some will reject Christ's gift of grace.