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I explained it in my original post. Peter calls the flood a symbol for repentance/baptism. It's a theory but to me it's pretty plain and clear. More clear than trying to explain it in any way as a literal event.
But if you are looking at Noah's flood as a literal story then you won't understand.
I explained it in my original post. Peter calls the flood a symbol for repentance/baptism. It's a theory but to me it's pretty plain and clear. More clear than trying to explain it in any way as a literal event.
But if you are looking at Noah's flood as a literal story then you won't understand.
It's clear he believed it was a real event. When he invokes symbolism, he compares baptism to what happened to Noah and his family. They were "baptized" through the flood.
It's clear he believed it was a real event. When he invokes symbolism, he compares baptism to what happened to Noah and his family. They were "baptized" through the flood.
And all the other humans and animals and insects and plants were baptized to death.
And all the other humans and animals and insects and plants were baptized to death.
Amen.
In other words, when one person is saved, then it must mean automatic bad news for other people around them.
Believing something like that, says a lot about the person who believes it. It explains a lot about popular religion. Religious people have always opposed science and progress, anything that might help other people who are not like them. In fact there are probably some religious people who relish the fact that their personal enemies are going to suffer horribly in some way. That's why God prefers these people, because they think this way.
In other words, when one person is saved, then it must mean automatic bad news for other people around them.
Not true. We each have a choice to make. Noah preached repentance- no one listened.
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Originally Posted by OzzyRules
Believing something like that, says a lot about the person who believes it. It explains a lot about popular religion. Religious people have always opposed science and progress, anything that might help other people who are not like them. In fact there are probably some religious people who relish the fact that their personal enemies are going to suffer horribly in some way. That's why God prefers these people, because they think this way.
While there are people that say that, the fact is that Christians share their faith worldwide, with the hope of salvation for others.
Not true. We each have a choice to make. Noah preached repentance- no one listened.
While there are people that say that, the fact is that Christians share their faith worldwide, with the hope of salvation for others.
I have actually heard respected Christian leaders say that. That they sometimes had so much trouble convincing people to see things their way, (out in the workplaces etc) and that they were almost glad to think they might not be saved, out of frustration from not being able to convert them. So they had the attitude of, Why should I care about these heathens?
But I have never heard a non-Christian express such a horrible thought as that. It makes me think there is something inherently wrong morally with Christians sometimes.
The Bible as a whole is a book of mythology, a book of wisdom., a book of history, a book of faith.
Once one is able to free one's self from the trap that everything in the Bible is literally true (and then having to search high and low from here and there to "prove" that it is, even though the contradictions are obvious) then one can revel in what the Bible offers in terms of insight into the human condition, and more importantly, one can properly focus on the Message of Jesus.
Of course, I have studied human culture worldwide, and my primary Professor was a Professor of Comparative Religion, so I have been able to discern what parts of the Bible are myth and which are not. Granted knowledge and wisdom, one can discern a LOT of the evolution of human thought over time.
Or one can remain stuck in the Middle Ages.
So well said. This takes intellectual integrity.
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