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Old 11-15-2014, 04:13 PM
 
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can we do one thing? Can we stop calling everyone who states that they are a christian, christians? I know that for this section of the website there is a different context there, but in reference to videos like this, i just think about luke 6:44. This is just complete nonsense. These individuals are out of order.
you're out of order!...you're out of order!....
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Old 11-15-2014, 04:16 PM
 
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As I stated before, I find there approach to justification very questionable or downright flawed. But all these comments about them "not being real Christians" I find very questionable as well. After watching the video again, it seems not all of them are sure its a sin invoking the second greatest commandment and saying how swinging is not actually mentioned in the bible. In there minds (and in the minds of the Liberated Christians), Adultery is not Adultery when its with the consent of both partners because theres no betrayal and therefore fulfills the law of love...so thats at least a start, but still not where near Liberated Christian swinger bible argumentation..

..Anyways, even if they do think its a sin, they are using an "Ends justify the means" type argument by using it to spread the gospel, perhaps just as the torturers of the Spanish Inquisition (bet you weren't expect that! ) may have used it for their atrocious deeds, which I find much worse than anything these people are doing. But can we really say these people and those of the Spanish Inquisition aren't Christian and will be withheld from the Kingdom for simply being in error? (not quite so "simply" for the torturers I'm sure, but still) I'm not willing to go that far at this point... There are simply too many Christian denominations with too many differing beliefs and error potential and just because they get some thing wrong here an there doesn't neccessarily mean disqualification from heaven. We will all be judged either way but its the essentials that are most important.
What is the definition of adultry in its most basic sense?...
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Old 11-15-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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What is the definition of adultery in its most basic sense?...
... cheating on your husband or wife, regardless of gender.
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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perhaps just as the torturers of the Spanish Inquisition (bet you weren't expect that! )
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:47 AM
 
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... cheating on your husband or wife, regardless of gender.


adultery

[ əˈdəlt(ə)rē ]

noun
noun: adultery · plural noun: adulteries

voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse:
"she was committing adultery with a much younger man"


Says nothing about cheating, which would imply that the affected spouse knows nothing of the activity...

Strong's:

H5003
נָאַף
nâ'aph
naw-af'
A primitive root; to commit adultery; figuratively to apostatize: - adulterer (-ess), commit (-ing) adultery, woman that breaketh wedlock.

Interesting, it seems that this word only applies to a woman...
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Old 11-16-2014, 10:09 AM
 
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Cheating, informal, to be sexually unfaithful.
Let us not be swindled or mislead by others.

Adulterer - a person who commits adultery.
Synonyms: cheat, cheater, two-timer.

In other words, not faithful or devoted.


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Old 11-16-2014, 10:23 AM
 
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Interesting, it seems that this word only applies to a woman...
Perhaps, you should take a closer look: Adulterer and Adulteress.

Sentence usage is another matter?

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Old 11-16-2014, 11:54 AM
 
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Perhaps, you should take a closer look: Adulterer and Adulteress.

Sentence usage is another matter?
Yea, well...I am looking at the Hebrew word for Adultery...And how it was applied in Hebrew...

I was pointing out that adultery in black and white is not defined as cheating...It is defined as relations with one not your spouse...Period...Whether the other knows or not...Ya follow me?...

So, it pretty much covers swinging...So, ya totally missed the point...
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Old 11-16-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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Cheating, informal, to be sexually unfaithful.
Let us not be swindled or mislead by others.

Adulterer - a person who commits adultery.
Synonyms: cheat, cheater, two-timer.

In other words, not faithful or devoted.
That is our modern definitions of the word...
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Old 11-16-2014, 05:14 PM
 
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Yea, well...I am looking at the Hebrew word for Adultery...And how it was applied in Hebrew...

I was pointing out that adultery in black and white is not defined as cheating...It is defined as relations with one not your spouse...Period...Whether the other knows or not...Ya follow me?...

So, it pretty much covers swinging...So, ya totally missed the point...
I did not miss the point, even if you want to be anal?
Remember, the basic sense of a word is not the word itself?

But, I do realize you are meticulous.
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