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Old 09-26-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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Some people will try to rationalize anything. They don't even attempt to rationalize it through scripture which is really alarming.


Christian Wife Swappers Preach The Word Of God Through Swinging - YouTube

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Old 09-26-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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1 Cor 5 comes to mind.

I find it interesting that she stated "The Bible doesn't talk about swinging". Yet...it does explicitly condemn adultery and sexual immorality.

Bottom line is that people will use whatever logic they have to in order to justify a behavior. We've seen that before in society with other sexual sin.
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Old 09-26-2014, 12:11 PM
 
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Wow, Liberated Christian swingers who aren't anywhere near as biblically intelligent as the original Phoenix Liberated Christian swingers or even the Family International (originally the Children of God cult)...

The biblical arguments of the original Liberated Christians were actually quite impressive though a bit flawed on certain points. I debated/discussed their much more open sexuality beliefs on their forums a while back and I had to actually concede that they might be right on a few things and I couldn't even pin them down on the swinging part without doubting parts of my own arguments..not that I was convinced enough by their arguments to think it was a good idea or 100% scripturally a-ok, but I had to really dig to find holes in their arguments and those holes may not even be big enough to call them sinful. I dare anyone to go to their website or forums look at their arguments unbiasly (good luck with that one, fundamentalists) and not come away questioning tradition on at least a few aspects.

Anyways, These people in the video appear to think its still a sin and they are doing it anyways! Amatures ;p
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Old 09-26-2014, 12:24 PM
 
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I'm not a Christian, but if I were, I would be offended by the ones in this video.
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Old 09-26-2014, 04:53 PM
 
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I'm not a Christian, but if I were, I would be offended by the ones in this video.
why ? they are not Christians. that enough is plain.
what angers me more than them, who I pity, is the media
that pushes these themes unto the forefront. That is
the real agenda. "Discovery Family & Health" channel is now
swinger tv at night. This is all part and parcel of the plan outlined
in the Protocols of Zion to bring down Christianity as a force in civilization.
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Old 09-26-2014, 09:55 PM
 
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why ? they are not Christians. that enough is plain.
what angers me more than them, who I pity, is the media
that pushes these themes unto the forefront. That is
the real agenda. "Discovery Family & Health" channel is now
swinger tv at night. This is all part and parcel of the plan outlined
in the Protocols of Zion to bring down Christianity as a force in civilization.
Are the protocols of Zion affiliated with the trilateral commission or the illuminati? 😱
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Old 09-26-2014, 11:45 PM
 
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This is pretty funny. Is this a new reality show or maybe they are looking for one? Some people will say and do anything to get on tv.
If someone wants to be a swinger then good for them, but to try to make it some kind of weird Bible Christian thing is such BS. What's next porn for priests? Cuckold club for clergy men? haha!

This could very well be fake too. Those people do kinda look like low budget porn actors.
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Old 09-27-2014, 12:41 AM
 
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The line that got me was -- "God has not said - Dean - stop this, it is sin, I don't want you to do this - so until He does that, we will try to help as many people as we can."

1- How does he expect God to tell Him this? God can speak internally through the Holy Spirit, as well as through reading the Bible, and through other believers. I'll bet God has spoken through one of those channels, and he wasn't paying attention.

2- As far as helping others through swinging - lots of luck. We are supposed to make ourselves available for God to work through us. We are not supposed to make up our own plans - especially if they involve sin.
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Old 09-29-2014, 01:56 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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A friend told me that many christians are swingers. Apparently the mid week bible study, is where it all happens

He got born again so he could get some action, but was single, so could only watch, and had to spill his seed on the ground.
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Old 09-29-2014, 02:05 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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This is really offensive. Wow.
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