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So, I was reading some posts on some different FB pages and such and noticed something from a couple of people that, I have to say somewhat bothered me. I respect for them because they truly believe in what they are saying and think they are following the Bible. It bothered me because why or how could any human being change their views or personal beliefs just because a church, priest or church elder or pastor told them to?
There was this one person who has stated that he believed in waterboarding and didn't think of it as torture. Now, this post is NOT about politics or your political views, so please politics aside. Anyway, this person said that he would modify his views and/or beliefs if a Bishop or Priest told him that they were against church doctrine. He said that there would be no questioning it at all and that it was up to him to follow all church doctrine, even if he had to change his political views and/or beliefs.
Am I all alone with the fact that there is no way I could automatically change or modify my beliefs and/or views just because someone from my church told me to do so? I realize that I am a bit different than most Christians in that I refuse to follow any certain denomination or set of doctrines, but I can't believe that anyone would give up their free will to change their thoughts about anything because someone from the church told them something different. I am sorry but it just doesn't seem right to me and leaves me to think that it is why this person is so comfortable being in this certain denomination, because he doesn't really have to think for himself and believes and follows all the church tells him.
OK, I am off the soapbox now. Let the flogging begin.
So, I was reading some posts on some different FB pages and such and noticed something from a couple of people that, I have to say somewhat bothered me. I respect for them because they truly believe in what they are saying and think they are following the Bible. It bothered me because why or how could any human being change their views or personal beliefs just because a church, priest or church elder or pastor told them to?
There was this one person who has stated that he believed in waterboarding and didn't think of it as torture. Now, this post is NOT about politics or your political views, so please politics aside. Anyway, this person said that he would modify his views and/or beliefs if a Bishop or Priest told him that they were against church doctrine. He said that there would be no questioning it at all and that it was up to him to follow all church doctrine, even if he had to change his political views and/or beliefs.
Am I all alone with the fact that there is no way I could automatically change or modify my beliefs and/or views just because someone from my church told me to do so? I realize that I am a bit different than most Christians in that I refuse to follow any certain denomination or set of doctrines, but I can't believe that anyone would give up their free will to change their thoughts about anything because someone from the church told them something different. I am sorry but it just doesn't seem right to me and leaves me to think that it is why this person is so comfortable being in this certain denomination, because he doesn't really have to think for himself and believes and follows all the church tells him.
OK, I am off the soapbox now. Let the flogging begin.
That's what religion is. You follow and believe the same thing as the rest of the people at your church. You have to throw your mind out of the window, that's the way it works.
So, I was reading some posts on some different FB pages and such and noticed something from a couple of people that, I have to say somewhat bothered me. I respect for them because they truly believe in what they are saying and think they are following the Bible. It bothered me because why or how could any human being change their views or personal beliefs just because a church, priest or church elder or pastor told them to?
There was this one person who has stated that he believed in waterboarding and didn't think of it as torture. Now, this post is NOT about politics or your political views, so please politics aside. Anyway, this person said that he would modify his views and/or beliefs if a Bishop or Priest told him that they were against church doctrine. He said that there would be no questioning it at all and that it was up to him to follow all church doctrine, even if he had to change his political views and/or beliefs.
Am I all alone with the fact that there is no way I could automatically change or modify my beliefs and/or views just because someone from my church told me to do so? I realize that I am a bit different than most Christians in that I refuse to follow any certain denomination or set of doctrines, but I can't believe that anyone would give up their free will to change their thoughts about anything because someone from the church told them something different. I am sorry but it just doesn't seem right to me and leaves me to think that it is why this person is so comfortable being in this certain denomination, because he doesn't really have to think for himself and believes and follows all the church tells him.
OK, I am off the soapbox now. Let the flogging begin.
Honest and challenging post and it isn't about politics, it is about following church doctrine - no matter how much it may conflict with human moral values.
People are often presented with conflicts in their beliefs. Choosing a method to resolve such conflicts is not unusual, but the one you note does not appeal to me either. I'd rather do some more in depth investigation into the facts and reasons behind such stances. In the example given of waterboarding a simple appeal to the golden rule would work for me; I would not want to go through it.
Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
I don't blindly follow any man. What my Pastor says is always measured against scriptures. Like many Baptist churches we have a statement of faith. These are suppose to line up with scriptures. They were voted upon when the church began. They unlike a Creed can be altered by a majority vote of the congregation. People who join the church understand up front what we believe and teach. There is usually a family or two attending services who are not members because they believe we are wrong on a particular doctrine. They are not asked to leave or even remain silent. I suppose if someone became disruptive something would be said.
We believe that everyone is personally responsible to God and must act out their faith in good conscience. We call this "soul liberty" and it is part of our articles of faith(part of the statement of faith).
So, I was reading some posts on some different FB pages and such and noticed something from a couple of people that, I have to say somewhat bothered me. I respect for them because they truly believe in what they are saying and think they are following the Bible. It bothered me because why or how could any human being change their views or personal beliefs just because a church, priest or church elder or pastor told them to?
There was this one person who has stated that he believed in waterboarding and didn't think of it as torture. Now, this post is NOT about politics or your political views, so please politics aside. Anyway, this person said that he would modify his views and/or beliefs if a Bishop or Priest told him that they were against church doctrine. He said that there would be no questioning it at all and that it was up to him to follow all church doctrine, even if he had to change his political views and/or beliefs.
Am I all alone with the fact that there is no way I could automatically change or modify my beliefs and/or views just because someone from my church told me to do so? I realize that I am a bit different than most Christians in that I refuse to follow any certain denomination or set of doctrines, but I can't believe that anyone would give up their free will to change their thoughts about anything because someone from the church told them something different. I am sorry but it just doesn't seem right to me and leaves me to think that it is why this person is so comfortable being in this certain denomination, because he doesn't really have to think for himself and believes and follows all the church tells him.
OK, I am off the soapbox now. Let the flogging begin.
That is what religion is all about.
Some follow their preacher or their church. Others follow the bible word by word. This is never a good idea.
It is best to follow the Golden Rule in this instance.
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That's what religion is. You follow and believe the same thing as the rest of the people at your church. You have to throw your mind out of the window, that's the way it works.
So religion by its very nature rejects the idea of man's free will?
Ouch! I guess the pastor tells folks what they want to hear.
You don't think it's a good idea to follow the words of the apostles over a pastor?
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I guess the pastor tells folks what they want to hear.
