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Old 04-23-2015, 03:51 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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People of solid, anchored faith in God & our best friend, Jesus, I'm seeking opinions & even expressions.
Here's the deal: 2009, learned how to include myself in prayer. Started praying to own a house (was VERY specific!) & continued this prayer. 2011, life became rather busy & rocky. Prayers about this fantasy home stopped. By mid-2012 I was in so much emotional distress (crushed dreams, failing marriage, soul-sucking job, etc). Feb2013, rental lease was expired in our townhouse, rentals were sparse in the town we lived in, my husband unexcitedly took us to look at a property rental out in the country. This is where things start to get interesting
Our marriage was uncomfortably close to being torn apart. But when we pulled up to this rinky-dink little country home, I instanstly knew God's hand was at work! Small, needed work, lots of land for farm animals, a barn with 3 horse stalls, pine tree lined, on an intersection of dirt road for my kids to play, gorgeous view of the mountains, some mature trees! ALL of the specifics of my fantasy home prayer! It looked as deserted as I felt. My only reaction I could muster in that moment was, "oh thank You Father." I knew in my heart that we were here to heal our marriage, our family, to heal as individuals & to grow. Praise God!
After talking with realtor, come to find out, it's not a rental but a lease purchase! Then, I find out that the realtor who'd be writing up contracts was a customer of mine that I'd had the pleasure of working with off & on for several years & we had an awesome report. Holy moly, blessing after blessing.
The woman selling the property, we'll call her CG, seemed like a wonderful one to work with. She promised to help us with debt consolidation & with future loan processing. Both being areas of professional expertise for her & areas of ignorance for my husband & I! Perfect fit, right?
March2013, Lease Purchase contract signed, as well as a Rental Agreement until we closed on escrow. The contracts would last for 2yrs & extended with CG's agreement, though we were all hopeful for less than 2yrs 'til ownership.
June2014, we've been in our house for a little over a year & life has improved tremendously! Marriage has mended & blossomed, children have newfound happiness, our family unit is delightful.
I was sought out by a Hippotherapy School (horses that help with autistic & children with mobility disorders) to take 2 of their older mares, just thru the hot summer months, at their expense. Heck yea! Free horses?! So, my husband got CG's verbal permission & requested written notice to allow horses onto this Zoned Horse Property for 4-5mos. CG agreed yay!
July2015, we received a notice of eviction for material breech of contract & a late fee that wasn't paid in March. That same month, a representative of a bank informed me that the house could be going into forclosure. Hmmm.... I did my homework on state laws & after receiving summons for Small Claims, I knew CG wouldn't win the eviction & she didn't.
Well, that relationship was ruined for no reason & awfully quick :/ What else was she brewing against us & WHY?! Prayer & faith. Terrible feeling to be attacked by someone who you thought you friendly with & they hold the keys to something you love. My Father is greater, though.
Feb & March2015, no hope of first time homebuyers loan. They sure do make it tough. The debt consolidation & help with loans promises given by CG were false. Time is up. What now? We signed a month to month rental agreement & CG sent another eviction notice Apr1.
Good intentions, solid effort, thousands of dollars lost. Hey, it paid for CG's college continuance at least someone benefited, I guess. But now we must find somewhere else so live Thankfully our friends own a 2acre property with a single-wide trailer. The trailer has no floors, no water source, had dead skunks in it, overgrown by weeds, just eww. Spit shine, let's get to polishing this turd! We have 30 days to flip it!
Sadly, while putting money into having another place to live, we haven't yet been able to pay April's rent. Well, now we have another court date, this coming Tues28. CG is doing all she can to take us for what we're worth, after profiting handsomely off of us & honestly, not fulfilling her promises & even state law in a few mild areas.
After many tears, much stress & just straight up confusion, I havent known until today what to do about this. Of course, I turned to biblical advice & guidance. What instantly came to attention was 1Corinthians, Paul's wisdom & Matthew 5:40, in particular. "If a man will sue you at law to take away your coat, let him have your cloak as well." Straight from Jesus' mouth!
My gut instinct was to counter sue. I have a few legs to stand on. But I cannot afford a lawyer, I can barely afford anything. But that's not the point. The point is that Jesus didn't tell us to go to court & fight. He tells us to turn the other cheek, to walk 2miles instead of 1, to accept gladly the suffers from wrongdoings & that give everything to man if he wants it that bad, cuz that's the right spirit... even if you're poor. God's our provider anyways!
With all that being said, CG is suing me & my husband for $1362 plus damages (whatever in the world she means by that!) & my Answer submitted to the court will admit that that amount of money is owed, plus we'd like to pay an additional $1362. Attached to the Answer will be the Scripture in Matthew & 1Corinthians that gave us guidance to this seemingly radical decision.
I don't have the funds to afford the first $1362, much less a second! Lol but what I do have is faith that my Father doesn't lie, He is our Provider & when we step out in faith claiming life in our situations, Glory to God!
Thanks for reading
Am I understanding this correctly, you will go to court and state that you will pay $1362 + an additional $1362, even though you know you don't have the money? It was blind faith that got you into this predicament, now you are going to make another promise you can't keep, but this time it will be under oath in a court of law.
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Old 04-23-2015, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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July2015, we received a notice of eviction for material breech of contract & a late fee that wasn't paid in March. That same month, a representative of a bank informed me that the house could be going into forclosure.
July 2015 has not yet arrived? But apparently, you were behind on the payments, and were unable to continue with the agreement or contract on the lease purchase. And, it sounds like the owner was carrying you for a period of time?

Or are you saying that the late fee was thirteen hundred and sixty-two dollars?
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The part about the trailer and flipping it was a little unclear. If you're in the desert part of AZ I really hope you aren't planning on living in a place without water (does it have power?) during the summer when it hits 110, and above, for weeks at a time.

It can be done. People did it during the Depression. The Navajos do it. I hope you're hearty.
Yes, I tries to be brief. We just had a water tank, 1500 gallons I think, delivered. We've lived in AZ for 8yrs now plus we live up north. A bit cooler, thankfully, than southern territory. We had power turned on, once it's finished, it's gonna be pretty & def liveable
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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July 2015 has not yet arrived? But apparently, you were behind on the payments, and were unable to continue with the agreement or contract on the lease purchase. And, it sounds like the owner was carrying you for a period of time?

Or are you saying that the late fee was thirteen hundred and sixty-two dollars?
Whoops! July 2014 No, we were never ever behind on payment until this month. April rent is still unpaid. The lease was 2yrs only. The only part of the agreement that was not fulfilled was scoring a loan in the 2yrs we were given
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Am I understanding this correctly, you will go to court and state that you will pay $1362 + an additional $1362, even though you know you don't have the money? It was blind faith that got you into this predicament, now you are going to make another promise you can't keep, but this time it will be under oath in a court of law.
Yep you got it! Blind faith. That's what faith is! The only promise I didn't keep is getting a loan, which has proven to be rather difficult. God is our Provider. The example we're wanting to give is to turn the other cheek. I know, sounds crazy right?! I'm excited to see the next step. I'm not hurting because of this, by all means! This post is simply a testimony. I wanted to hear what was on the minds & in the thought process of other faithful Christians. But...this story is very simply my testimony
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Old 04-23-2015, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Magical thinking hurts people. Encouraging and affirming magical thinking hurts people. If I didn't care, I would have kept silent.
I disagree. Not when the "magical thinking" is based on prayer & belief. I've seen God work in ways that only He could be responsible for. And we aren't hurting. We're happy, excited & all of our needs are met. I've never not had food on the table, or my electricity shut off, or not had a place to live. My kids are healthy, we have 2 trucks, clothes, are active, fit, have chickens, a dog, a cat & their all happy, too thanks for caring, though. I understand where your coming from, but because of my personal experience with the pure power of staying Biblical, I must disagree with this statement
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Old 04-23-2015, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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So you are now in another place and able to pay the debt even if you have to make payments it sounds like; Let the landlord know that you will do this, and she should know that that is the best she could get from a court decision. Set up a loan type agreement on paper if that is what she wants, with reasonable interest and avoid court if possible.
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Old 04-24-2015, 02:50 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Have you thought about a Go-Fund-Me campaign? I hear they have excellent results for some people?
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Old 04-24-2015, 07:23 AM
 
Location: US
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People of solid, anchored faith in God & our best friend, Jesus, I'm seeking opinions & even expressions.
Here's the deal: 2009, learned how to include myself in prayer. Started praying to own a house (was VERY specific!) & continued this prayer. 2011, life became rather busy & rocky. Prayers about this fantasy home stopped. By mid-2012 I was in so much emotional distress (crushed dreams, failing marriage, soul-sucking job, etc). Feb2013, rental lease was expired in our townhouse, rentals were sparse in the town we lived in, my husband unexcitedly took us to look at a property rental out in the country. This is where things start to get interesting
Our marriage was uncomfortably close to being torn apart. But when we pulled up to this rinky-dink little country home, I instanstly knew God's hand was at work! Small, needed work, lots of land for farm animals, a barn with 3 horse stalls, pine tree lined, on an intersection of dirt road for my kids to play, gorgeous view of the mountains, some mature trees! ALL of the specifics of my fantasy home prayer! It looked as deserted as I felt. My only reaction I could muster in that moment was, "oh thank You Father." I knew in my heart that we were here to heal our marriage, our family, to heal as individuals & to grow. Praise God!
After talking with realtor, come to find out, it's not a rental but a lease purchase! Then, I find out that the realtor who'd be writing up contracts was a customer of mine that I'd had the pleasure of working with off & on for several years & we had an awesome report. Holy moly, blessing after blessing.
The woman selling the property, we'll call her CG, seemed like a wonderful one to work with. She promised to help us with debt consolidation & with future loan processing. Both being areas of professional expertise for her & areas of ignorance for my husband & I! Perfect fit, right?
March2013, Lease Purchase contract signed, as well as a Rental Agreement until we closed on escrow. The contracts would last for 2yrs & extended with CG's agreement, though we were all hopeful for less than 2yrs 'til ownership.
June2014, we've been in our house for a little over a year & life has improved tremendously! Marriage has mended & blossomed, children have newfound happiness, our family unit is delightful.
I was sought out by a Hippotherapy School (horses that help with autistic & children with mobility disorders) to take 2 of their older mares, just thru the hot summer months, at their expense. Heck yea! Free horses?! So, my husband got CG's verbal permission & requested written notice to allow horses onto this Zoned Horse Property for 4-5mos. CG agreed yay!
July2015, we received a notice of eviction for material breech of contract & a late fee that wasn't paid in March. That same month, a representative of a bank informed me that the house could be going into forclosure. Hmmm.... I did my homework on state laws & after receiving summons for Small Claims, I knew CG wouldn't win the eviction & she didn't.
Well, that relationship was ruined for no reason & awfully quick :/ What else was she brewing against us & WHY?! Prayer & faith. Terrible feeling to be attacked by someone who you thought you friendly with & they hold the keys to something you love. My Father is greater, though.
Feb & March2015, no hope of first time homebuyers loan. They sure do make it tough. The debt consolidation & help with loans promises given by CG were false. Time is up. What now? We signed a month to month rental agreement & CG sent another eviction notice Apr1.
Good intentions, solid effort, thousands of dollars lost. Hey, it paid for CG's college continuance at least someone benefited, I guess. But now we must find somewhere else so live Thankfully our friends own a 2acre property with a single-wide trailer. The trailer has no floors, no water source, had dead skunks in it, overgrown by weeds, just eww. Spit shine, let's get to polishing this turd! We have 30 days to flip it!
Sadly, while putting money into having another place to live, we haven't yet been able to pay April's rent. Well, now we have another court date, this coming Tues28. CG is doing all she can to take us for what we're worth, after profiting handsomely off of us & honestly, not fulfilling her promises & even state law in a few mild areas.
After many tears, much stress & just straight up confusion, I havent known until today what to do about this. Of course, I turned to biblical advice & guidance. What instantly came to attention was 1Corinthians, Paul's wisdom & Matthew 5:40, in particular. "If a man will sue you at law to take away your coat, let him have your cloak as well." Straight from Jesus' mouth!
My gut instinct was to counter sue. I have a few legs to stand on. But I cannot afford a lawyer, I can barely afford anything. But that's not the point. The point is that Jesus didn't tell us to go to court & fight. He tells us to turn the other cheek, to walk 2miles instead of 1, to accept gladly the suffers from wrongdoings & that give everything to man if he wants it that bad, cuz that's the right spirit... even if you're poor. God's our provider anyways!
With all that being said, CG is suing me & my husband for $1362 plus damages (whatever in the world she means by that!) & my Answer submitted to the court will admit that that amount of money is owed, plus we'd like to pay an additional $1362. Attached to the Answer will be the Scripture in Matthew & 1Corinthians that gave us guidance to this seemingly radical decision.
I don't have the funds to afford the first $1362, much less a second! Lol but what I do have is faith that my Father doesn't lie, He is our Provider & when we step out in faith claiming life in our situations, Glory to God!
Thanks for reading
Why are you making yourself sound like a Martyr?...There is a reason why CG sued for eviction, you were obviously behind on your rent...She didn't just wake up one morning and think, "I think I will evict those people from my property"...She was in the right, according to G-d's Laws...And your use of scripture to make her look like the bad guy and make yourself look like the victim is just....WOW!..

Psa 37:21 The sinner borrows, and will not pay again: but the righteous has compassion, and gives.

Pro 13:4 Every slothful man desires, but the hands of the active are diligent.

Pro 13:11 Wealth gotten hastily with iniquity is diminished: but he that gathers for himself with godliness shall be increased. The righteous is merciful, and lends.
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Old 04-24-2015, 07:34 AM
 
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Whoops! July 2014 No, we were never ever behind on payment until this month. April rent is still unpaid. The lease was 2yrs only. The only part of the agreement that was not fulfilled was scoring a loan in the 2yrs we were given
So, you are behind on payments...This would be the only reason for an eviction suit...An no reasonable person would sue somebody for moneys owed if it were not valid and the only time that would happen is if they tried every other way to get they're moneys owed to them...


Your thinking reminds me of the sister of a man I worked with in Germany, he said that he helped her out from time to time with money for bills and rent because she has no job or income...He said she was waiting on G-d to tell her to go to work....Do what???...And G-d hadn't told her to go to work yet...She says that she is just waiting on G-d...
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