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Old 07-02-2015, 03:07 PM
 
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I though the 613 Laws did not apply to us today? How many are still valid?
All that dont have to do with the nation of Israel, the temple or animal sacrifices.
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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Many not all our poster friends are young and smart, but when asked what Gods says about gay marriage most give what THEY THINK or what THEY THINK GOD THINKS its great to get any interest, but always remember God is spirit and will default to His transcriptionists, who He inspired to write His stuff aka word.
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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All that dont have to do with the nation of Israel, the temple or animal sacrifices.
Since they were ALL given to Israel, that is all 613, including the alleged homosexual one...are NULL AND VOID
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:57 PM
 
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Since they were ALL given to Israel, that is all 613, including the alleged homosexual one...are NULL AND VOID

You are now free to worship other Gods, commit idolatry, take God name in vain, lie, steal, kill, dishonor your parents, covet, commit all the sexual immorality you like and anything else you want since all the commands of God are now NULL AND VOID.
Jesus came specifically so we can now be disobedience to God according to your logic.
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:59 PM
 
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The law is eternal. Jesus came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it. In simple terms not to dump that thang, but to preserve the law ( minus many no longer applicable in our timeline) forever and ever and ever. ........ Much of the morality rules are in the NT anyway.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Since they were ALL given to Israel, that is all 613, including the alleged homosexual one...are NULL AND VOID
Yes, but if it's mentioned in the NT, we must pay attention.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:19 PM
 
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Since they were ALL given to Israel, that is all 613, including the alleged homosexual one...are NULL AND VOID
Even if you want to disregard EVERY bible verse regarding homosexuality, we can point to the vast amounts of biblical passages affirming heterosexual marriage, and the abject silence of the Bible in regards to same-gender marriage.

In EVERY instance in the Bible that speaks of marriage, it is ALWAYS between a bride and groom. It is NEVER between a bride and bride or groom and groom. Beginning with Genesis 2.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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As a Christian... and my opinion of what God thinks about gay marriage is; we must not redefine His nature and say... this is good. His plan for marriage has a historical template. Why would marriage now have an expanded understanding? and redefined to include marriage of same genders? To me marriage is equal to math by definition... and we can not change the sum of two numbers, so In the same way, I believe God would want marriage to be defined as between a Man and a Woman and not have this changed. Certainly there have been variations on marriage... many wives for a husband so I guess it's OK for many husbands for a wife.

If God took a position ( court room) I believe it would be support for traditional marriage. Believing and support something does equal condemnation. He saw man and woman and said; "this is good".
An excellent and measured response, but there is one flawed premise: that it was God who gave the indications of what He did not like and that they were comprehensive. Let me expand: References to homosexual acts are given without distinction between selfish exploitive acts and acts of love within a relationship, and, of course, the concern with injunctions and warnings is those things that are harmful. People in general have only recently been made aware that attraction to the same sex is not really a choice (I'm sure some of the people so attracted were always aware of it) and homosexuality has always been associated in the general mind with licentious activity (you see the inability to think of it in any other way in many posts here) Awareness of historic and current long term relationships is only now 9within the last few decades) coming to the forefront of discussion. Only recently has awareness become more general that there are many such and that they can only contribute to social stability: that there is absolutely no intrinsic harm to the institution.
What we can now understand from the fact that same sex relationships are the only way a percentage of the population can find the fulfillment associated with traditional marriage is that a God concerned with the well-being of everyone would bless such a union just as He does others.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:50 PM
 
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See God does not like sin , like divorce and like divisions against people , and like unbelief in God and His purpose, and like rationalization against faith in God`s promises , and like hatred, and like rejecting people, and like selfishness, and greed, and like thinking one is better than the other in covetousness and pride ..................... See sin is sin , and God does need people being abused , or hated or brought down , as God need people to seek Him out as God has a plan for each and every person in the entire earth whether they seek God or not as God cannot do anything until people seek God out and believe in Jesus and His ways for salvation ......................, Like the OP is what does God think of gay marriage , well Don`t reject God because of this , or do not put this marriage as an obstacle before God , as God Loves all people no matter what sin that have , but God cannot put himself under any spiritual authority than what He has
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Many not all our poster friends are young and smart, but when asked what Gods says about gay marriage most give what THEY THINK or what THEY THINK GOD THINKS its great to get any interest, but always remember God is spirit and will default to His transcriptionists, who He inspired to write His stuff aka word.
Because you don't seem to be able to listen to the promised "Comforter" does not mean that the promise that the comforter would be with us forever has been abrogated.
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