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I've never suggested that ONLY churches can perform marriages. If a person wants to go to a JP, great. If they want to have a friend register with the state and marry them on a beach....great. Go for it. But many people do want to have their marriages in a church. Why attack a church because it is unwilling to perform a marriage that they are religiously unable to perform?
No one is and your OP does not talk about anyone doing so. It is about a commercial enterprise.
Yes, I do. You don't seem to realize that the same thing obtains in gay unions.
No. It really doesn't. 2 men do not complement each other the way a man and a woman do. My wife does not have the same parts I do. Not to mention, we are 2 very different types of people.
Do you realize men and women are different? We think differently?
I've never suggested that ONLY churches can perform marriages. If a person wants to go to a JP, great. If they want to have a friend register with the state and marry them on a beach....great. Go for it. But many people do want to have their marriages in a church. Why attack a church because it is unwilling to perform a marriage that they are religiously unable to perform?
I have never attacked a church for refusing to marry same sex couples. In other threads I have told you that since SSM has become legal in Canada it is up to the individual denominations to decide if they will perform them or not and that is exactly the way it should be in my mind. If the RCC does not and the United Church of Canada (the largest protestant church in Canada) does that is their business. If marriages can be outside the church then your religious rules should not be used to decide who can and who cannot marry.
But telling other Christian denomitions they are wrong because they do not follow you exact interpretation of the Bible or saying they are not true Christians because they do not promote fear and hatred of homosexuals is also wrong in my opinion. The government has no place telling churches what they cannot do within their religion, except for certain things that harm others such as human sacrifices, and the church has no business telling the government what it can or cannot do and that includes laws for businesses. The only peopple who should be able to tell you what you can preach in your sermons or who you must perform marriage cerimonies for are the folks who sit in the pews of your church, and even then you would have the right to refuse and all they could do is fire you.
I think this pastor is a refreshing counter change to sound bits of other pastors who make you seem like the gay's biggest boaster. I do not like the promotion of discriminiation or the promotion of hatred. People are allow to discriminate in their own life and allowed to hate all they want. Churches are allowed to promote hatred and they are allowed to promote tolerance, acceptance and understanding. This pastor has taken the latter, two many the former. I salute him for his sermon. If you do not promote your distain for homosexuals in your sermons like you do on the forum, that is great and I would salute you too for that.
As a Jewish boy growing up in a small prairie town not knowing any other jewish kids I do know first hand both the positives and negatives that religious and cultural beliefs play with on others and how it shapes how I was treated as a kid. I am very glad that the most influencial religious person in the town I grew up in was the Catholic priest as he was a amazing person who took no notice of my relgion. The minister of one of the other churches which was smaller and he less of a person in everyone's mind and was a bigot. Most of the churches were neutral in my growing up but I did know many of the pastors as a kid or teenager and got along with them as well as anyone would not belonging to their church. Gays were not treated decently back then and if I recall my views from that period mine were likely also not favourable towards them. We were wrong back then. In my view you are wrong about them now.
No. It really doesn't. 2 men do not complement each other the way a man and a woman do. My wife does not have the same parts I do. Not to mention, we are 2 very different types of people.
Do you realize men and women are different? We think differently?
Funny about your comment in that I was listening to a TED talk on the way to work this morning and it claims that men and women are more like each other then we believe. He used the comment that it is not that Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus as much as Men are Mars bars and Women are Snickers.
For almost everything my wife and I do we have the same parts, in fact some times I wear her ball cap or sunglasses. He shoes are too small though. But then I do not think about others having sex, well at least not for people I know.
For starters, men tend to be much more visual. Historically, men have tended to use porn a lot more. Women tend to read books like 50 Shades of Grey. There are exceptions to that, of course, but it's just one way.
Nevermind the physical differences. My wife and I have different parts than each other.
Why are you so focused on and obsessed with sins, jeff. Thanks to Jesus, God is NOT counting our sins against us. What about that do you NOT understand????
unreal statement. just unreal ! you are so far off-base, it's not even worth saying anything
to correct you. go, believe that Jesus gave you a license to sin. that's what you want, right ?
the devil is what gave you that idea.
And it's amazing how he affirmed the marriage of Genesis, isn't it? He had the perfect opportunity to clear up any misconceptions that anyone might have about marriage....and he didn't. He simply affirmed marriage as a man and a woman.
It's amazing how it didn't say anything about marriage...He did not affirm it, he was talking about divorce, nothing else...That is the question that he was asked and he answered it...
It's amazing how it didn't say anything about marriage...He did not affirm it, he was talking about divorce, nothing else...That is the question that he was asked and he answered it...
Really?
“At the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh[.]’ So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate” (Matthew 19:4–6).
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