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Old 09-15-2018, 02:22 PM
 
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Which god?

Thor? Yahweh? Allah? Loki? Freya?

Why did you pick one over the others?

The God - Father of Jesus Christ.

 
Old 09-15-2018, 02:26 PM
 
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Sorry, you are trying to convince a linguist of Strong's concordance. Strong's is weak at best. It obviously could not have meant castration to Jesus. He said some were BORN that way, and there is no possibility that He could have known a single person BORN as a eunuch. However we can be sure He knew of effeminate men.
Born Eunuchs


Jesus stated "The one who can accept this should accept it." I can and I do and I love and worship Jesus as much as you do. But don't think that because you are unable to be open-hearted about people born with no desire for females that you are better than anyone else--especially the ones you denigrate.

Moreover, Jesus speaking of eunuchs is quite curious because Judaism has always forbidden man-made castration:
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...irtual-library
Basically castration itself was considered terrible, but Jesus didn't see it that way. He accepted people for how they were, not how others wanted them to be. Jesus didn't see one who became a eunuch for spiritual reasons was unacceptable either--although the Pharisees did.

What Judaism believes is not what I believe or what Christ teaches.
 
Old 09-15-2018, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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It is not a trick, I simply opened my Bible and my concordance and can see that the Greek scholars explained the meaning as castration.



From Strong's concordance definition for eunuch:



From εὐνή eunē (a bed) and G2192; a castrated person (such being employed in Oriental bed chambers); by extension an impotent or unmarried man; by implication a chamberlain (state officer): - eunuch.


By Word Usage we can see that it extends this to be one that is abstinent with regards to sex.
The Strong's on Bible hub adds: (b) a eunuch, castrated person, or one who voluntarily abstains from marriage.
So, maybe you are doing a "trick." Could that be extended to one who voluntarily abstains from marriage due to an inborn sexual preference that militates against it? A kind of "natural eunuch?"
 
Old 09-15-2018, 03:09 PM
 
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The God - Father of Jesus Christ.
How do you know that is the right god? What if you are wrong?
 
Old 09-15-2018, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Hannibal, let me know what mean in regards to the Sabbaths, pagan gods and homosexuality and I'll try to answer in the context.


Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
If you think those two commandments are all that matters, then how is somebody else in sin when they commit homosexuality?
 
Old 09-15-2018, 03:58 PM
 
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The Strong's on Bible hub adds: (b) a eunuch, castrated person, or one who voluntarily abstains from marriage.
So, maybe you are doing a "trick." Could that be extended to one who voluntarily abstains from marriage due to an inborn sexual preference that militates against it? A kind of "natural eunuch?"

All lust for the flesh is sin.
 
Old 09-15-2018, 03:59 PM
 
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How do you know that is the right god? What if you are wrong?

I'm convinced and each man will be in due time. In 2040 all will know.
 
Old 09-15-2018, 04:02 PM
 
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If you think those two commandments are all that matters, then how is somebody else in sin when they commit homosexuality?

On those two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Homosexuality is lust for the flesh, it is also counter to the 'type' that God established to portray the relationship of Christ and His Church which was typed in the union of Man and Woman.
 
Old 09-15-2018, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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All lust for the flesh is sin.
Desire is not a sin in, and of itself.
 
Old 09-15-2018, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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On those two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Homosexuality is lust for the flesh, it is also counter to the 'type' that God established to portray the relationship of Christ and His Church which was typed in the union of Man and Woman.
I am forgiven because I have a law. .


YOU don't have a law to be forgiven from, I can't express how inappropriate it is for somebody like you to tell people that homosexuality is a sin..........

That is called hypocrisy when you see the sin in others and you wont admit your own sins. This isn't a pick and choose, you choose all the law or you aint got no law, and so why are you even speaking of homosexuality?


Do you know that all those laws of marriage and sex pertain to a human and a spirit?

That the laws of the sin of homosexuality is just pointing to spiritual homosexuality just as spiritual adultery is involving yourself in pagan practiced just like Israel when they built that golden calf? They committed adultery against God and tell me which one you think is worse?


Whether or not you have practiced Homosexuality or not is irrelevant, I would tell you that you are a homosexual by flesh and spirit just from these couple posts, you know why?

Because you are to be a submissive bride to the will of your bridegroom, but seeing that you want to be the man and be able to alter the law as you see fit. I believe you have taken on the role as a man instead of a woman, and there you are as two men in a bed.


What you say is above what God has said, and so you prove that your word is above God, you have become a male in a homosexual relationship in your own body and spirit. Just my opinion.

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