Why does homosexuality anger conservative Christians more than other sins? (Georgia, Atlanta)
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I submit that homosexuals are far more militant than the Christians they accuse.
I simply cannot imagine why anyone would become militant toward people who have persistently called them 'abominations' and wished them to eternal torment in hell. Yep, sarcasm intended ...
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Case in point is that they employ the attitude of TOLERANCE as a rallying point.
I believe that they want acceptance, to be left alone and allowed to take their place in society unhampered by religious bigots.
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Everyone should TOLERATE their sexual aberrations, they say.
Well, I've been around for quite a while and have lived in various countries in my life time. And, I have to say that I've never witnessed any real-life homosexual sexual aberrations. I think this might be because sexual intimacy - gay or straight - is usually a private affair. SO, it would seem that you, CL, spend time on gay porn sites or have otherwise taken to peeking in the windows of gay people's bedrooms to know what specific 'aberrations' are being performed by them. If that is not the case, then what is this 'sexual aberration' that you're being 'forced to tolerate'?
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On the other hand, homosexuals refuse to TOLERATE the wish of righteous people to live according to God's Law. They are "in your face" about it - demanding those who love God's Law to yield to the gay perverted sense of licentiousness.
Unless you're speaking of the Gay Mardi Gras I'm at a loss as to this 'gay perverted sense of licentiousness' that you're referring to. Intimacy - gay or straight - is a private affair and usually not witnessed by anyone else unless they happen to be peeking. Have you been peeking, CL?
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They are of all folk the most hypocritical - in that they demand TOLERANCE for themselves, but deny it to others.
Again, homosexual people have been maligned, vilified and even killed by these 'righteous people' that you mentioned. You're up in arms because gay people refuse to 'tolerate' your religious bigotry? You poor baby. Also again, what are you being expected to 'tolerate' ...is it what you imagine that gay people get up to in the bedroom? Just mind your own business and tend to your own house. Besides, I seriously doubt that anyone really cares what it is that you're bleating about.
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These are the Last Days, the End Times in which the people of the earth are being prepared for Final Judgment.
Well, okay.
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The books are open for only a little while longer. Let those who seek God do it now and make peace with Him because there is little time left for many of us.
Well, okay again. But what does this have to do with homosexual people? Or, are they being blamed for all the ills of the world?
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Let the righteous be righteous still and let the wicked be wicked still (Rev 22:11)
Is there anyone here who is righteous? Is there anyone here who is wicked?
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The time to repent is now.
I assume you're referring to homosexual people needing to repent. What is it, precisely, that they are being asked to repent of? Is it this 'sexual aberration' that you imagine is taking place in their bedrooms? Seriously, CL, what are gay people supposed to be repenting of?
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The gay lifestyle isn't the only sin in the book and many others need to be considered as well. It is time to lose them all. It is time to make peace with God in the name of Jesus Christ.
The way you and other professed Christians bandy around the word 'sin' (a silly, silly word!) and, by virtue, imply self-righteousness, it's a wonder that anyone will take them seriously.
I simply cannot imagine why anyone would become militant toward people who have persistently called them 'abominations' and wished them to eternal torment in hell. Yep, sarcasm intended ...
I believe that they want acceptance, to be left alone and allowed to take their place in society unhampered by religious bigots.
Well, I've been around for quite a while and have lived in various countries in my life time. And, I have to say that I've never witnessed any real-life homosexual sexual aberrations. I think this might be because sexual intimacy - gay or straight - is usually a private affair. SO, it would seem that you, CL, spend time on gay porn sites or have otherwise taken to peeking in the windows of gay people's bedrooms to know what specific 'aberrations' are being performed by them. If that is not the case, then what is this 'sexual aberration' that you're being 'forced to tolerate'?
Unless you're speaking of the Gay Mardi Gras I'm at a loss as to this 'gay perverted sense of licentiousness' that you're referring to. Intimacy - gay or straight - is a private affair and usually not witnessed by anyone else unless they happen to be peeking. Have you been peeking, CL?
Again, homosexual people have been maligned, vilified and even killed by these 'righteous people' that you mentioned. You're up in arms because gay people refuse to 'tolerate' your religious bigotry? You poor baby. Also again, what are you being expected to 'tolerate' ...is it what you imagine that gay people get up to in the bedroom? Just mind your own business and tend to your own house. Besides, I seriously doubt that anyone really cares what it is that you're bleating about.
Well, okay.
Well, okay again. But what does this have to do with homosexual people? Or, are they being blamed for all the ills of the world?
Is there anyone here who is righteous? Is there anyone here who is wicked?
I assume you're referring to homosexual people needing to repent. What is it, precisely, that they are being asked to repent of? Is it this 'sexual aberration' that you imagine is taking place in their bedrooms? Seriously, CL, what are gay people supposed to be repenting of?
The way you and other professed Christians bandy around the word 'sin' (a silly, silly word!) and, by virtue, imply self-righteousness, it's a wonder that anyone will take them seriously.
Yes, I know.
Too soon etc. etc., but this is an EPIC post. Well done!
I simply cannot imagine why anyone would become militant toward people who have persistently called them 'abominations' and wished them to eternal torment in hell. Yep, sarcasm intended ...
No one is wishing you anywhere. You are offended by what the Bible says about the matter, so you get militant against Christians.
What's the point of coming to Christianity board to start endless threads to discuss the bible verses you hate the most? The verses aren't going anywhere, and if you dont want people to talk about them, then dont start discussions about them.
Last edited by Finn_Jarber; 09-23-2018 at 11:55 AM..
I simply cannot imagine why anyone would become militant toward people who have persistently called them 'abominations' and wished them to eternal torment in hell. Yep, sarcasm intended ...
I believe that they want acceptance, to be left alone and allowed to take their place in society unhampered by religious bigots.
Well, I've been around for quite a while and have lived in various countries in my life time. And, I have to say that I've never witnessed any real-life homosexual sexual aberrations. I think this might be because sexual intimacy - gay or straight - is usually a private affair. SO, it would seem that you, CL, spend time on gay porn sites or have otherwise taken to peeking in the windows of gay people's bedrooms to know what specific 'aberrations' are being performed by them. If that is not the case, then what is this 'sexual aberration' that you're being 'forced to tolerate'?
Unless you're speaking of the Gay Mardi Gras I'm at a loss as to this 'gay perverted sense of licentiousness' that you're referring to. Intimacy - gay or straight - is a private affair and usually not witnessed by anyone else unless they happen to be peeking. Have you been peeking, CL?
Again, homosexual people have been maligned, vilified and even killed by these 'righteous people' that you mentioned. You're up in arms because gay people refuse to 'tolerate' your religious bigotry? You poor baby. Also again, what are you being expected to 'tolerate' ...is it what you imagine that gay people get up to in the bedroom? Just mind your own business and tend to your own house. Besides, I seriously doubt that anyone really cares what it is that you're bleating about.
Well, okay.
Well, okay again. But what does this have to do with homosexual people? Or, are they being blamed for all the ills of the world?
Is there anyone here who is righteous? Is there anyone here who is wicked?
I assume you're referring to homosexual people needing to repent. What is it, precisely, that they are being asked to repent of? Is it this 'sexual aberration' that you imagine is taking place in their bedrooms? Seriously, CL, what are gay people supposed to be repenting of?
The way you and other professed Christians bandy around the word 'sin' (a silly, silly word!) and, by virtue, imply self-righteousness, it's a wonder that anyone will take them seriously.
Yes, I know.
I agree with another poster that this is an epic post.
I simply cannot imagine why anyone would become militant toward people who have persistently called them 'abominations' and wished them to eternal torment in hell. Yep, sarcasm intended ...
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
No one is wishing you anywhere. You are offended by what the Bible says about the matter, so you get militant against Christians.
Well, for starters, I'm not gay. Second, I'm not 'offended' by anything that the Bible might 'say'. And, gay or straight, I would still justify my use of the Bible to refute the misinterpreted texts of the Bible with which anti-gay Christians (those who appear to be tethered to the Bible like slaves) use to condemn gay people.
Hey everyone, here's a little secret ...if the truth be known, much of the time the Bible has nothing to do with one's personal aversion to homosexuality anyway. The Bible is oftentimes used as a convenient crutch in attempts to justify one's own prejudice/s. True! As the old adage goes, God hates the very same people that I hate! Also, some Christians might appear to be quite reverent on the outside by the persistent use of scripture while this may well be nothing other than a cover or a diversion from their own, um, 'secret sins'.
Be that as it may, I don't fall for the "I quote the Bible regularly, therefore this wins me favor with God" crud any more. But, I am still open to discussing the Bible with them anyway.
Y'know, it seems to me that we should all possess enough 'God-given' brain power to have reached the conclusion way before now that the ancient Bible authors would not have had an inkling as to what 'homosexuality' was. Yes, I know that I sound like a worn out vinyl record, but <sigh> repetitiveness is sometimes necessary before some people eventually catch on. Hey, I'm just as much the offender myself at times. Changing a cherished mindset can be most difficult. I know that from personal experience.
That said, the Bible was not authored by God but by human beings who would have had as much knowledge (very limited) about the world as we would reasonably expect them to have had given the times they lived in. Let's go back just a hundred years and compare that time with the present year 2018. Homosexuality, as with many other human conditions, would have been unknown to the ancient authors of scripture. So, we can therefore conclude that the Bible does not address homosexuality. Sexual rituals by males performed with male temple prostitutes is NOT the definition of 'homosexuality'. Why then do we persist in using the Bible with which to condemn homosexuality ...something that it simply does not address? Y'see how pointless all of this hoopla about 'Homosexuality and the Bible' actually is?
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
What's the point of coming to Christianity board to start endless threads to discuss the bible verses you hate the most? The verses aren't going anywhere, and if you don't want people to talk about them, then don't start discussions about them.
Um, I don't believe that I started this thread. But, someone did and here we are . . .
Well, for starters, I'm not gay. Second, I'm not 'offended' by anything that the Bible might 'say'. And, gay or straight, I would still justify my use of the Bible to refute the misinterpreted texts of the Bible with which anti-gay Christians (those who appear to be tethered to the Bible like slaves) use to condemn gay people.
Hey everyone, here's a little secret ...if the truth be known, much of the time the Bible has nothing to do with one's personal aversion to homosexuality anyway. The Bible is oftentimes used as a convenient crutch in attempts to justify one's own prejudice/s. True! As the old adage goes, God hates the very same people that I hate! Also, some Christians might appear to be quite reverent on the outside by the persistent use of scripture while this may well be nothing other than a cover or a diversion from their own, um, 'secret sins'.
Be that as it may, I don't fall for the "I quote the Bible regularly, therefore this wins me favor with God" crud any more. But, I am still open to discussing the Bible with them anyway.
Y'know, it seems to me that we should all possess enough 'God-given' brain power to have reached the conclusion way before now that the ancient Bible authors would not have had an inkling as to what 'homosexuality' was. Yes, I know that I sound like a worn out vinyl record, but <sigh> repetitiveness is sometimes necessary before some people eventually catch on. Hey, I'm just as much the offender myself at times. Changing a cherished mindset can be most difficult. I know that from personal experience.
That said, the Bible was not authored by God but by human beings who would have had as much knowledge (very limited) about the world as we would reasonably expect them to have had given the times they lived in. Let's go back just a hundred years and compare that time with the present year 2018. Homosexuality, as with many other human conditions, would have been unknown to the ancient authors of scripture. So, we can therefore conclude that the Bible does not address homosexuality. Sexual rituals by males performed with male temple prostitutes is NOT the definition of 'homosexuality'. Why then do we persist in using the Bible with which to condemn homosexuality ...something that it simply does not address? Y'see how pointless all of this hoopla about 'Homosexuality and the Bible' actually is?
Um, I don't believe that I started this thread. But, someone did and here we are . . .
There are a few who hide behind their Bible, while throwing stones.
the Bible was not authored by God but by human beings who would have had as much knowledge (very limited) about the world as we would reasonably expect them to have had given the times they lived in.
Maybe you should learn to respect differing opinions on that matter.
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Um, I don't believe that I started this thread. But, someone did and here we are . . .
I don't think I have ever seen you talk about any other topic than homosexuality, so it does not matter if you started it when you keep bringing it up.
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Homosexuality, as with many other human conditions, would have been unknown to the ancient authors of scripture.
It is obvious it must have been known to them, since they wrote about it.
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Why then do we persist in using the Bible with which to condemn homosexuality ...something that it simply does not address?
We? I don't know. Why do you? Personally, I don't bother. The Bible says what it says, and if people like you keep denying what it says, then the only choices is to express your view (and maybe quote the verses in question), or zip it. Neither option condemns anyone.
Last edited by Finn_Jarber; 09-24-2018 at 05:54 AM..
Maybe you should learn to respect differing opinions on that matter.
I don't think I have ever seen you talk about any other topic than homosexuality, so it does not matter if you started it when you keep bringing it up.
It is obvious it must have been known to them, since they wrote about it.
If only bible fundamentalists had respected homosexuals and used wisdom expressing their opinions they (Do you really think you can condemn and not expect a reaction?)would not have created this war of words going on between you.
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