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Old 09-25-2018, 12:36 PM
 
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Right. Because you're better than those that believe in it?

More sensible.

 
Old 09-25-2018, 12:49 PM
 
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Amen. I’m so grateful that God freed me from believing that heinous doctrine of eternal torment which was hindering my experience of the God who is love.
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Right. Because you're better than those that believe in it?
When you infer things NOT said by others you reveal the inner you. You must believe you are better than those who do not believe as you do or you would not accuse anyone else of it.
 
Old 09-25-2018, 12:50 PM
 
Location: New England
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People sin, because they are sinners (all of us


There you go. It seems you mistakenly left out the remainder of what Finn said
Why are you interested in sin, should not those that follow Jesus invest their thinking upon righteousness instead of determining who you think are sinners, since whenever was that your job?. Jesus said lift him up and he would draw all men to himself, well, who is Jesus?......The righteousness of God, so why are you making a big deal out of sin along with Finn Jarber?, one reason only, the same as the pharisee, you don't like what you see in yourself, so you shift the attention on those you think are sinners.

If either you or Finn Jarber thought you were justified by the faith in the faithfulness of God, you would not be calling yourself sinners and you would not call or see the world as sinful too. Like all bible fundamentalists, you have misunderstood the spirit and message of Jesus Christ. Which is look away from yourself to him, who is a reflection of your true identity(Which is not sinful). You and Finn Jarber think it is humble to say you are sinners, it is nothing but false humilty. Jesus never once said the way to come to him was the way of the publican condemned by the Pharisee. The jist of the parable was if you exalt yourself over others you will be humbled. The parable had nothing to do with how to become a christian.
 
Old 09-25-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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Why are you interested in sin, should not those that follow Jesus invest their thinking upon righteousness instead of determining who you think are sinners, since whenever was that your job?. Jesus said lift him up and he would draw all men to himself, well, who is Jesus?......The righteousness of God, so why are you making a big deal out of sin along with Finn Jarber?, one reason only, the same as the pharisee, you don't like what you see in yourself, so you shift the attention on those you think are sinners.

If either you or Finn Jarber thought you were justified by the faith in the faithfulness of God, you would not be calling yourself sinners and you would not call or see the world as sinful too. Like all bible fundamentalists, you have misunderstood the spirit and message of Jesus Christ. Which is look away from yourself to him, who is a reflection of your true identity(Which is not sinful). You and Finn Jarber think it is humble to say you are sinners, it is nothing but false humilty. Jesus never once said the way to come to him was the way of the publican condemned by the Pharisee. The jist of the parable was if you exalt yourself over others you will be humbled. The parable had nothing to do with how to become a christian.
 
Old 09-25-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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Why are you interested in sin, should not those that follow Jesus invest their thinking upon righteousness instead of determining who you think are sinners, since whenever was that your job?. Jesus said lift him up and he would draw all men to himself, well, who is Jesus?......The righteousness of God, so why are you making a big deal out of sin along with Finn Jarber?, one reason only, the same as the pharisee, you don't like what you see in yourself, so you shift the attention on those you think are sinners.

If either you or Finn Jarber thought you were justified by the faith in the faithfulness of God, you would not be calling yourself sinners and you would not call or see the world as sinful too. Like all bible fundamentalists, you have misunderstood the spirit and message of Jesus Christ. Which is look away from yourself to him, who is a reflection of your true identity(Which is not sinful). You and Finn Jarber think it is humble to say you are sinners, it is nothing but false humilty. Jesus never once said the way to come to him was the way of the publican condemned by the Pharisee. The jist of the parable was if you exalt yourself over others you will be humbled. The parable had nothing to do with how to become a christian.
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Camps is in the house!
 
Old 09-25-2018, 01:06 PM
 
Location: USA
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More sensible.
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When you infer things NOT said by others you reveal the inner you. You must believe you are better than those who do not believe as you do or you would not accuse anyone else of it.
Yeah, I didn’t even know how to respond to that. How does being grateful to no longer be hindered from experiencing Gods love by believing in eternal torment (after 40 plus years of holding that belief) translate into being better than anyone?
 
Old 09-25-2018, 01:12 PM
 
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Why are you interested in sin, should not those that follow Jesus invest their thinking upon righteousness instead of determining who you think are sinners, since whenever was that your job?. Jesus said lift him up and he would draw all men to himself, well, who is Jesus?......The righteousness of God, so why are you making a big deal out of sin along with Finn Jarber?, one reason only, the same as the pharisee, you don't like what you see in yourself, so you shift the attention on those you think are sinners.

If either you or Finn Jarber thought you were justified by the faith in the faithfulness of God, you would not be calling yourself sinners and you would not call or see the world as sinful too. Like all bible fundamentalists, you have misunderstood the spirit and message of Jesus Christ. Which is look away from yourself to him, who is a reflection of your true identity(Which is not sinful). You and Finn Jarber think it is humble to say you are sinners, it is nothing but false humilty. Jesus never once said the way to come to him was the way of the publican condemned by the Pharisee. The jist of the parable was if you exalt yourself over others you will be humbled. The parable had nothing to do with how to become a christian.



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Camps is in the house!
More like a sand castle.
 
Old 09-25-2018, 01:19 PM
 
Location: USA
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More like a sand castle.
Faith in the faithfulness of God is something you mock?
 
Old 09-25-2018, 01:30 PM
 
Location: New England
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Faith in the faithfulness of God is something you mock?
What he is saying is, we are sinners(bible believing christians apparently are a different kind of sinner), the world is sinful and condemned and it is our duty to let it know it is. Jesus never said anything of the sort never mind commissioned anyone to go out and speak out against sin or sinner.
 
Old 09-25-2018, 01:44 PM
 
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1 Timothy 5:20 As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.

For issues concerning the passage I posted, please take them up with He who inspired the writing of them. He doesn't need me to defend Him.

See also 2 Timothy 4:2, and the book of Titus

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