Why does homosexuality anger conservative Christians more than other sins? (woman, church)
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The CREATOR can dictate to the created anything He wants. God however, in His infinite wisdom, gave man a choice.
The CREATOR already decided NOT to dictate. That's why He became a Man and came down to rescue us from ourselves. He had tried dictating through the Law and all it did was show how short man comes of what God desires. In addition, the LAW was misused by the Jews as it is today by many, many Christians.
Ever wonder why the early Christians led by James, when asked what Gentiles needed to do to become Jesus believing Jews never mentioned the OT, one of the foundations of their faith? Instead, the Jerusalem Jews gave this as criteria to abstain from as living a "holy" life:
(1) Eating food sacrificed to idols;
(2) Sexual immorality;
(3) Eating the meat of strangled animals; and
(4) Eating blood.
The four requirements James bound upon the Gentiles are halakah based on commands found in the Mosaic Law. In Hebrew, halakah literally means "the path one walks." Each of these commandments was based on ancient requirements found in the Law of Moses for a "stranger" who desired to live among the tribes of Israel.
Why didn't they mention the Ten Commandments? Was it because the commandments weren't important or because cultural considerations overrode their own instruction from the Torah?
Scripture is never simple when one reads it carefully and then THINKS!!!
Now you've got it all on one post. Where's the verse that says: "A marriage shall consist of ... {fill in your definition here} ... thus sayeth your Lord."
I mean, well after your verse from Genesis 2, many men in the Bible married their sisters, their sisters-in-law, had multiple wives, sold their daughters into marriages, and took slaves and made them wives, and made their daughters pregnant. Looks to me like there is a pretty wide range of definitions that seemed to be OK with God. Are all those men burning in the pits of Hell now?
And that of marrying the rapist.
And don't forget the one who has you put to death, so he can have sex with your wife?
You think it was just an option, including gay marriage?
Absolutely not. What you say is a definition of marriage () is obviously tossed out the window time after time throughout the Bible with God giving men hundreds of wives, condoning sex with concubines, siblings marrying, men selling their daughters into marriage, even setting the price a man had to pay to the woman's father after he raped the daughter and she had to marry him. There are so many variations on so-called marriages that no one mention of it can be taken as a definition.
I can't find a single clear and unambiguous mention in the Bible of committed, loving relationships between (or among) persons of the same sex, either to condone or condemn them, although there are a few vague references that are too unclear to be used for reference. Love in relationship to marriage doesn't seem to come up very often.
With no clear reference to loving, committed relationships between people of the same sex, the only conclusion I can see is that the Bible remains silent on the subject, just as it is on many other topics that were unknown at the time, or that were not understood until later.
Absolutely not. What you say is a definition of marriage () is obviously tossed out the window time after time throughout the Bible with God giving men hundreds of wives, condoning sex with concubines, siblings marrying, men selling their daughters into marriage, even setting the price a man had to pay to the woman's father after he raped the daughter and she had to marry him. There are so many variations on so-called marriages that no one mention of it can be taken as a definition.
I can't find a single clear and unambiguous mention in the Bible of committed, loving relationships between (or among) persons of the same sex, either to condone or condemn them, although there are a few vague references that are too unclear to be used for reference. Love in relationship to marriage doesn't seem to come up very often.
With no clear reference to loving, committed relationships between people of the same sex, the only conclusion I can see is that the Bible remains silent on the subject, just as it is on many other topics that were unknown at the time, or that were not understood until later.
You think it was just an option, including gay marriage?
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Originally Posted by mensaguy
Absolutely not. What you say is a definition of marriage () is obviously tossed out the window time after time throughout the Bible with God giving men hundreds of wives, condoning sex with concubines, siblings marrying, men selling their daughters into marriage, even setting the price a man had to pay to the woman's father after he raped the daughter and she had to marry him. There are so many variations on so-called marriages that no one mention of it can be taken as a definition.
I can't find a single clear and unambiguous mention in the Bible of committed, loving relationships between (or among) persons of the same sex, either to condone or condemn them, although there are a few vague references that are too unclear to be used for reference. Love in relationship to marriage doesn't seem to come up very often.
With no clear reference to loving, committed relationships between people of the same sex, the only conclusion I can see is that the Bible remains silent on the subject, just as it is on many other topics that were unknown at the time, or that were not understood until later.
The people at the time and in the place the books of the Bible were written had no concept of homosexuality as the way some people are born or of the possibility that two people of the same sex could love each other. Let's not forget that women were property, too. People didn't marry for love, but rather as a contract, usually with a female relative given to a man in exchange for some gold or cattle. The whole system stunk unless you were a male with some wealth, and they were the ones who got to decide what went into those rule books, using "God said so" as a means to get the people to follow what they said. This is so clear I don't see how anyone can think otherwise.
The perception of homosexuality was limited to nothing but sexual acts, not a part of someone's self, and that perception still seems to be lingering today, unfortunately, and those old rules written to make life easy for those who wrote the rules (or supported the ones who did the actually writing; i.e., the priesthood) are still being misused to oppress certain people. It's way past time for that to end.
More thinking Christians are speaking up against this traditional oppression against both gay people and women. It has nothing to do with God and never did.
Absolutely not. What you say is a definition of marriage () is obviously tossed out the window time after time throughout the Bible with God giving men hundreds of wives, condoning sex with concubines, siblings marrying, men selling their daughters into marriage, even setting the price a man had to pay to the woman's father after he raped the daughter and she had to marry him. There are so many variations on so-called marriages that no one mention of it can be taken as a definition.
I can't find a single clear and unambiguous mention in the Bible of committed, loving relationships between (or among) persons of the same sex, either to condone or condemn them, although there are a few vague references that are too unclear to be used for reference. Love in relationship to marriage doesn't seem to come up very often.
With no clear reference to loving, committed relationships between people of the same sex, the only conclusion I can see is that the Bible remains silent on the subject, just as it is on many other topics that were unknown at the time, or that were not understood until later.
The Bible says that God’s original intention was for one man to be married to only one woman: “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife [not wives], and they will become one flesh [not fleshes]”. The fact that not all follow that does not negate the plan of God.
The Bible says that God’s original intention was for one man to be married to only one woman: “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife [not wives], and they will become one flesh [not fleshes]”. The fact that not all follow that does not negate the plan of God.
Still really, really lame, jimmie. Your god is fine with all kinds of degrading, misogynistic fornication inside and out of wedlock. You just need to hate on gays so you decide your god doesn't like men playing with each other's naughty bits.
Ignoring the forest of sexual shenanigans to focus on a wee, gay tree. Fundies are disgusting.
The Bible says that God’s original intention was for one man to be married to only one woman: “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife [not wives], and they will become one flesh [not fleshes]”. The fact that not all follow that does not negate the plan of God.
How many wives were available to Adam jimmiej?
Well only one until Adams daughters became of breeding age, right?
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) is obviously tossed out the window time after time throughout the Bible with God giving men hundreds of wives, condoning sex with concubines, siblings marrying, men selling their daughters into marriage, even setting the price a man had to pay to the woman's father after he raped the daughter and she had to marry him. There are so many variations on so-called marriages that no one mention of it can be taken as a definition.
