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The will of God through Jesus is the Word of God ..... See Jews can say no to Jesus as this is their freedom from to choose Jesus or not , God is not forcing anyone , and there would be no love ......... Jesus said in John 14:6....``I am the way and the truth and the life.. No one comes to the Father except through me . ``........... Jesus said from Matthew 8:11-12....... ``I say to you that many will come from the east and the west , and recline at the table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven , but the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness ......``....................See the will of God is the Word of God so either they sit with Jesus or be lost
The posters here MIGHT want to ask this question on the Judaism forum, particularly in the "Ask a Jew" thread - at least if you can do it respectfully and hopefully without prejudice (i.e., pre-judging the responses.) There are many there that are well-versed in Torah that can provide a much more scholarly answer than I ever could. There have, however, been assertions made in THIS thread, such as that Jews have "hardened their hearts toward Jesus"; Jesus' name is taken in vain in movies because Jews "run Hollywood" (Wow - bigoted much???); and the video post by Snowball that states that Jews will accept the anti-Christ as the Messiah. Those assertions are simply and patently untrue.
Jesus did not fulfill the Messianic prophesies, so we do not accept him as the Messiah. Besides, Jews have a personal relationship with G-d, so there is no need for an intermediary between us and G-d. For a really good view on the positive accepts of Judaism, go to The Jewish Website - aish.com under the "Israel" tab to read "5 Greatest Gifts of Being a Jew". It explains and celebrates a great deal about the tenets of Judaism. Jews don't need the NT; it is irrelevant to us. We are the people of the choosing (rather than the "chosen people"), because the Jews, out of all the peoples of the earth, chose to submit orselves to G-d's laws and commandments and cleave to the one G-d. Sorry folks, but YOUR club's rules will never exclude us from G-d's favor and love.
Oh, btw, I converted to Judaism from Christianity. Don't waste your time telling me I'm going to burn in a lake of fire, etc. That's your doctrine, not mine. And my relationship with G-d is just fine as it is.
The posters here MIGHT want to ask this question on the Judaism forum, particularly in the "Ask a Jew" thread - at least if you can do it respectfully and hopefully without prejudice (i.e., pre-judging the responses.) There are many there that are well-versed in Torah that can provide a much more scholarly answer than I ever could. There have, however, been assertions made in THIS thread, such as that Jews have "hardened their hearts toward Jesus"; Jesus' name is taken in vain in movies because Jews "run Hollywood" (Wow - bigoted much???); and the video post by Snowball that states that Jews will accept the anti-Christ as the Messiah. Those assertions are simply and patently untrue.
Jesus did not fulfill the Messianic prophesies, so we do not accept him as the Messiah. Besides, Jews have a personal relationship with G-d, so there is no need for an intermediary between us and G-d. For a really good view on the positive accepts of Judaism, go to The Jewish Website - aish.com under the "Israel" tab to read "5 Greatest Gifts of Being a Jew". It explains and celebrates a great deal about the tenets of Judaism. Jews don't need the NT; it is irrelevant to us. We are the people of the choosing (rather than the "chosen people"), because the Jews, out of all the peoples of the earth, chose to submit orselves to G-d's laws and commandments and cleave to the one G-d. Sorry folks, but YOUR club's rules will never exclude us from G-d's favor and love.
Oh, btw, I converted to Judaism from Christianity. Don't waste your time telling me I'm going to burn in a lake of fire, etc. That's your doctrine, not mine. And my relationship with G-d is just fine as it is.
What happens when you break Yahwehs commandments?
Sooo, since there is no temple and the animal sacrificial system was abolished, this is confirmed in Hebrews, and you don't need Jesus, you now have no way to repent to cover your sins. Your screwed.
Lets say the animal sacrifices were still valid, Where exactly do you set up animal sacrifices to cover your sins, since you dont need an intermediary and there is no levitical priesthood either to perform these for you. Just asking some questions from Torah.
The will of God through Jesus is the Word of God ..... See Jews can say no to Jesus as this is their freedom from to choose Jesus or not , God is not forcing anyone , and there would be no love ......... Jesus said in John 14:6....``I am the way and the truth and the life.. No one comes to the Father except through me . ``........... Jesus said from Matthew 8:11-12....... ``I say to you that many will come from the east and the west , and recline at the table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven , but the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness ......``....................See the will of God is the Word of God so either they sit with Jesus or be lost
If a Muslim ever told Christians they screwed up and are following the wrong Messiah and should be following Muhammed, Christians would flip the **** out.
It's okay for Christians to tell Jews and Muslims they're wrong but if anyone dares challenging Christianity they're declaring war on Christians!!!
It's never Muslims or Jews who knock on my door or hand me tracts telling me I'm going to hell and my soul needs to be saved.
If a Muslim ever told Christians they screwed up and are following the wrong Messiah and should be following Muhammed, Christians would flip the **** out.
It's okay for Christians to tell Jews and Muslims they're wrong but if anyone dares challenging Christianity they're declaring war on Christians!!!
It's never Muslims or Jews who knock on my door or hand me tracts telling me I'm going to hell and my soul needs to be saved.
It is never okay. It is arrogant. It was not an attempt to explore and gain knowledge. It was telling another faith they were lost causes. Along with a faint concern trollishness.
Let us not forget the Hollywood stereotyping.
It shows the heart of a Fundamental Christian Extremist Ideology.
This is so disgustingly arrogant and rude.
If a Muslim ever told Christians they screwed up and are following the wrong Messiah and should be following Muhammed, Christians would flip the **** out.
It's okay for Christians to tell Jews and Muslims they're wrong but if anyone dares challenging Christianity they're declaring war on Christians!!!
It's never Muslims or Jews who knock on my door or hand me tracts telling me I'm going to hell and my soul needs to be saved.
It is not so much arrogance or rudeness as a difference in expectation and focus. The verses the Jews focus on conform to their expectations about a Messiah. The verses the Christians focus on conform to their expectations about a Messiah. Of course, both groups think they are right. The Christians have an extant Messiah to point to. The Jews are left with their unfulfilled expectations. Who is right??? Sadly, the Christians have produced "precepts and doctrines of men" that seriously exceed the message and Gospel of Christ so they too have unfulfilled expectations. Seems like a draw to me. I chose Christ because the descriptions of Him and His agape love match the consciousness I encounter in deep meditation. That adds considerable confidence and certainty to my beliefs.
Is there any real hope of witnessing or reaching any Jews that have hardened their hearts towards the Messiah and think Christians have it wrong for over 2000 yrs?
I had written a post to respond to this, but it would be bad form for me, a Jew, to argue against Christian belief in the Christianity forum. God knows I hate it when the reverse happens in the Judaism forum.
So, instead, I'd like to pose a couple of questions: Why do so many Christians feel compelled to convert Jews to Christianity? Why can't you be happy in following your religion and letting us follow ours in peace?
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