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Yes, wants to be saved, but that wanting does Not mean happening for all.
Jesus' ransom covers MANY and Not all because Not all will end up accepting Jesus - Matthew 24:13; Matthew 20:28
Please keep in mind - John 3:13 - that all who died before Jesus died - Acts 2:34; Matthew 11:11 - can have a healthy physical resurrection back to life on earth starting with Jesus' coming 1,000 year governmental rulership over earth.
ALL of those mentioned at Hebrews 11:13,39 will have a physical resurrection with a sound heart, mind and body.
The ' future tense' is used at Acts 24:15 that there ' if going to be ' a resurrection.......
Jesus made a contract or covenant only with some to be called to heaven starting with his apostles - Luke 22:28-30; Daniel 7:18; Rev. 20:6. So, the majority of mankind will have the original opportunity to live forever on earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall. So, some are saved to heaven, so to speak, - Rev. 5:9-10, but the majority of mankind will be saved to live forever on a beautiful paradise earth starting with Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over earth.
Collectively, all means the whole of humanity - not just those you think, or what you believe.
It's an active, ongoing result of a previous action by and through the Faithfulness of Christ.
Collectively, all means the whole of humanity - not just those you think, or what you believe.
It's an active, ongoing result of a previous action by and through the Faithfulness of Christ.
Amen!They say that Jesus did it all and we have nothing to do with it, yet they continue to think they have something to do with it!!! It is a mystery, Jer.
Amen!They say that Jesus did it all and we have nothing to do with it, yet they continue to think they have something to do with it!!! It is a mystery, Jer.
Maybe that's because Jesus said, "You must believe!".
Good and Evil preexisted any attempt of drowning.
Woe to those that call evil, good and good, evil. There is a clear understanding of a Blessing in contrast to Curse.
Starting in Genesis our Lord Blessed all 7 days of his creation. And Hallowed the 7th.
If you wish to read from the Sacred. You will need the True vine.
Dualism is not the work of the early Hebrew people. It is the work of a later group that changed from understanding Satan as an adversary of God--a created and HELPFUL adversary--who played "Devil's Advocate" to God's purposes for men (the story of Job).
In Samuel (2nd Samuel 24:1) God commands David to number the Israelites because He is angry with them. In I Chronicles 21:1, written later, it is Satan who does so.
In order to "rectify" the idea that both Satan and God made the same command, fundamentalists abandon their own "literal sense" of the Bible. It cannot be read directly and understood because it is a contradiction. But then fundamentalists turn around and criticize more liberal understanding of Scripture because we frequently see the allegory hidden within as the primary message/
It is simply pure hypocrisy by people claiming to "know" God.
The very idea of a supernatural figure who has superpowers implies such figure is a little "god." Such goes against the grain of the original Jewish concept of a monotheistic God--and THAT definitely WAS new among existing world religions of the time.
Jews began to sweep in Persian dualism into their writings--and the "icing" on the cake, so to speak, was when christians of the gospel writing era pulled in Greek dualism as well. Dualism was, is, and always will be, a concept from pagan beliefs. Note, I didn't say "wrong" or incorrect--just not from Jewish or christian faiths. It is pagan.
If you wish to UNDERSTAND the Sacred, you need to do a great deal more study of the history of world religions. Anyone can read books. God often hides from those who think they are wise--especially if they believe they are wise without ever using their God given brain to study in depth.
Amen!They say that Jesus did it all and we have nothing to do with it, yet they continue to think they have something to do with it!!! It is a mystery, Jer.
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
Maybe that's because Jesus said, "You must believe!".
You stubbornly refuse to learn that the word you use to mean "believe IN" some specific things ABOUT Jesus and God has nothing to do with that. It has to do with what happens within you as you adopt what Christ has asked you to do and just have faith that Jesus is telling the truth and we are saved. It does not matter who you are or what you believe ABOUT God or Jesus, it matters what you adopt as your state of mind and how it affects your behavior toward others.
You stubbornly refuse to learn that the word you use to mean "believe IN" some specific things ABOUT Jesus and God has nothing to do with that. It has to do with what happens within you as you adopt what Christ has asked you to do and just have faith that Jesus is telling the truth and we are saved. It does not matter who you are or what you believe ABOUT God or Jesus, it matters what you adopt as your state of mind and how it affects your behavior toward others.
So close but yet so far...
Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Certainly the expression of a Pauline religion--just not that of a Christ follower--nor one that fits in with the overall picture of what Christ taught.
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"By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
John 14:35
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"Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? "Everyone who comes to Me and hears My words and acts on them, I will show you whom he is like: he is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation on the rock; and when a flood occurred, the torrent burst against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built. But the one who has heard and has not acted accordingly, is like a man who built a house on the ground without any foundation; and the torrent burst against it and immediately it collapsed, and the ruin of that house was great.
Luke 6:46-49
Jesus taught that it was more than mere belief--it was belief that resulted in right action.
How could you believe that such nonsense was inspired by God, or could possibly mean what you think it means? Seriously.
Christianity makes sense to me. God reaching down to man, et al.
Romans 10:9 is backed up by multiple other Biblical writings, including Christ's own words.
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