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Old 01-02-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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Oh man. I remember when I was a teen and a Christian said that to me... That God actually did that to fool/test people. How the heck do you ever trust a god like that?
When is he just joking and when is he for real? LOL
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Old 01-02-2016, 12:50 PM
 
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Since when did Kent Hovind speak for all Christians?
So you are saying that Kent is addressing contradictions?
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Old 01-02-2016, 12:51 PM
 
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I'm still waiting for you to point out where Hovind said there were contradictions.
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Huh? He says IF I WERE GOD, I WOULD PUT THINGS IN THERE THAT APPEAR TO BE CONTRADICTIONS...

YOU are watching and LISTENING to the same video, right? Do not watch his Abraham had a pet T-Rex video when answering the contradiction video.
Not watching the VIDEO nor are you reading the posts...
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Old 01-02-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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Not watching the VIDEO nor are you reading the posts...
So you can't show me? Because he said the word "apparent"...meaning "not actual".

Still waiting for an actual statement of him ACTUALLY saying that God put ACTUAL contradictions in the Bible.
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Old 01-02-2016, 01:16 PM
 
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So you can't show me? Because he said the word "apparent"...meaning "not actual".

Still waiting for an actual statement of him ACTUALLY saying that God put ACTUAL contradictions in the Bible.
Of course God didn't! That's just silly.

It was the men whom Constantine decided were channeling God who put them in.
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Old 01-02-2016, 02:29 PM
 
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Glossing over it? The ENTIRE BIBLE is OPINION...you seem to think it is LAW and infallible, when in truth it is all conjecture, opinion and PERSONAL interpretation...
That is not a true statement. Maybe you never read the entire Bible? The Bible is not opinion but is a collection of historic events which were written down and genealogies and prophecies, poetic literature etc.

Notice Genesis doesn't start with, "In my opinion, God created the heavens and earth."
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Old 01-02-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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That is not a true statement. Maybe you never read the entire Bible? The Bible is not opinion but is a collection of historic events which were written down and genealogies and prophecies, poetic literature etc.

Notice Genesis doesn't start with, "In my opinion, God created the heavens and earth."
This is YOUR opinion. Other believe the Book of Mormon is a true historical account of genealogies and prophecies. Other believe the New World Testament is the TRUE document..

Pick your doctrine, as it is all personal preference and opinion.

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Old 01-02-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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So you can't show me? Because he said the word "apparent"...meaning "not actual".

Still waiting for an actual statement of him ACTUALLY saying that God put ACTUAL contradictions in the Bible.
Some will ONLY hear what they want to hear and ignore the reality of the situation.

Some will hear Jesus is god, others will hear Jesus is god's prophet. The truth is it is ALL opinion, and Kent was answering a question about the CONTRADICTION between two verses describing the same event--WHICH he never have an answer to--because it requires a total and complete re-interpretation of some writing that is so old there is no original copy to verify what was written n the first place.

Instead of saying some scribe screwed up, the evangelical fundie looks for some mystical way to explain away the ERROR because they CAN NEVER accept the fact that MORTALS wrote the book and MORTALS screwed up in numerous places and we will NEVER really know what god-in-he-tiny-box is allegedly said and the best source of information lies within us and not in some man-written book that can and never will be proven true.
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Old 01-02-2016, 05:18 PM
 
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I'm still waiting for you to point out where Hovind said there were contradictions.
Apparent or real, thereis no difference to those wh cannot explain them and resort to faith in God as their answer, as Hovind does. If you think there are no contradictions, you must have explanations for the APPARENT ones. You are in this trap because you buy the nonsense that human beings are capable of recording inerrant and infallible truth and not messing with it. There is absolutely no basis in fact for any such supposition!!! It is preposterous! Yet you lead others to believe and accept it. You carry a heavy burden, Vizio.
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It's like the joke God pulled by putting fossils in rocks and things so that people who fell for it would go to Hell. Good joke, huh?
Perfect example of the kinds of irrational nonsense Bible believers will resort to in defense of their God -- the 100% inerrant Bible -- instead of the God Jesus unambiguously revealed.
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Oh man. I remember when I was a teen and a Christian said that to me... That God actually did that to fool/test people. How the heck do you ever trust a god like that?
You can't unless you blindly accept the kind of nonsense Hovind and Vizio promote about the Bible.
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Old 01-02-2016, 05:20 PM
 
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Some will ONLY hear what they want to hear and ignore the reality of the situation.
Some will hear Jesus is god, others will hear Jesus is god's prophet. The truth is it is ALL opinion, and Kent was answering a question about the CONTRADICTION between two verses describing the same event--WHICH he never have an answer to--because it requires a total and complete re-interpretation of some writing that is so old there is no original copy to verify what was written n the first place.
Instead of saying some scribe screwed up, the evangelical fundie looks for some mystical way to explain away the ERROR because they CAN NEVER accept the fact that MORTALS wrote the book and MORTALS screwed up in numerous places and we will NEVER really know what god-in-he-tiny-box is allegedly said and the best source of information lies within us and not in some man-written book that can and never will be proven true.
Amen!! It is not just scribes screwing up. They outright lied in support of the current dogma and preferred beliefs of the time.
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