The only way to enforce biblical laws on a national basis (Jesus Christ, Israel)

[Wardendresden]

Originally Posted by RonkonkomaNative

I have never heard of a biblical standard. There is no such thing.

A biblical standard today is whatever some religious bigot wishes to impose on the rest of the nation to make him feel better about himself.

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by Wardendresden

A biblical standard today is whatever some religious bigot wishes to impose on the rest of the nation to make him feel better about himself.

There you go again...

What would you like to call all of the commands given by Jesus, and Paul to the churches?

And are you calling me a religious bigot?

[Wardendresden]

Originally Posted by DRob4JC

There you go again...

What would you like to call all of the commands given by Jesus, and Paul to the churches?

Since Jesus didn't make any commandments to "churches" I would call it the same kind of misinterpretation you are prone to.

Paul was definitely into letting the ROMAN and CORINTHIAN churches know what HE considered to be necessary religious decorum.

But you don't believe Paul either regarding those churches. Paul saw it as an unpaid position, and all churches met in the homes of believers. You attend a nice church "building," pay a pastor a goodly portion of the donations that come in, and haven't enough money to do the kind of protracted service to others that both Jesus and Paul knew was necessary to exhibit a Christian life.

If you wish to propose a 'Christian" kind of Sharia law on other Americans, you are a religious bigot.

[Aristotle's Child]

Originally Posted by DRob4JC

Laws were never put in place because of the church, council, or prophet. The laws were put in place by people... just like they are today.

Maybe the question needs to be how American culture has moved away from biblical standards... none of which is described in your OP.

RESPONSE:

Really? Which of these three (church, council, or prophet) wrote the Ten Commandments?

[RonkonkomaNative]

Originally Posted by Wardendresden

A biblical standard today is whatever some religious bigot wishes to impose on the rest of the nation to make him feel better about himself.

I think this is true. Those poor, poor, deluded men.

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by Wardendresden

Since Jesus didn't make any commandments to "churches" I would call it the same kind of misinterpretation you are prone to.

I didn't say Jesus directly commanded the church. People still follow His commands.

Are they standards, suggestions - what should they be called?

Originally Posted by Wardendresden

Paul was definitely into letting the ROMAN and CORINTHIAN churches know what HE considered to be necessary religious decorum.

Not the Holy Spirit working through Paul, huh... got it.

Originally Posted by Wardendresden

But you don't believe Paul either regarding those churches. Paul saw it as an unpaid position, and all churches met in the homes of believers. You attend a nice church "building," pay a pastor a goodly portion of the donations that come in, and haven't enough money to do the kind of protracted service to others that both Jesus and Paul knew was necessary to exhibit a Christian life.

Obviously you don't know what I believe. It's not up to me how people run a church, or you, or Paul in himself. If the Holy Spirit leads the congregation to pay for the pastor's livelihood - what's that to you?

Originally Posted by Wardendresden

If you wish to propose a 'Christian" kind of Sharia law on other Americans, you are a religious bigot.

Do you think Jesus Christ would want His laws enacted on America? Hey - He did this already with the people of Israel on the OT. Is He a bigot?

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by Aristotle's Child

RESPONSE:

Really? Which of these three (church, council, or prophet) wrote the Ten Commandments?

I was referring to American laws, referenced in the OP.

[RonkonkomaNative]

Originally Posted by DRob4JC

Yeah... Jesus.... terrible role model.

Jesus did not tell women to submit. Paul did.

I stand as your equal.

[Vizio]

Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28

Everyone wants to return to the "good ole days" when people were cozy, children were beaten and not seen and women knew their place in the kitchen--all conveniently supported by some biblical law.

Who is "everyone"? In my house I don't beat my kids. I haven't spanked them in probably 10 years. My wife barely knows how to cook (she does make a good enchilada casserole), and no--I am not advocating for "blue laws" according to the Bible.

Who would you trust to enforce biblical law today?

Would it be the "church?"

Or a council?

A trusted modern day prophet?

If a local jurisdiction wants to enact some laws, they should be allowed to. Of course, it's as long as they don't violate guaranteed freedoms.

[Leisesturm]

Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28

Everyone wants to return to the "good ole days" when people were cozy, children were beaten and not seen and women knew their place in the kitchen--all conveniently supported by some biblical law.
Who would you trust to enforce biblical law today?

Would it be the "church?"

Or a council?

A trusted modern day prophet?

I can't tell where you come down on this. I can tell you that you are wrong. Not everyone wants to live the way you have outlined. In any case they don't need some kind of morality police to enforce what happens inside their own homes.