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Some Christians pick and choose what parts of the bible they will decide to take literally and what parts they will not. Are only parts of the Bible inspired?
When the creation account in Genesis describes the Moon being a light source of its own and not "reflecting light" as the world teaches.
Would it be so hard for God to inspire the writer to write " the lesser light reflects the greater light"
In Genesis people are living to be almost 1000 years old.
Book of Joshua describing the Sun and the Moon standing still. (not the earth, if earth that we are told is rotating 1000 miles per hour was to suddenly stop, what would happen to the earth?)
Would it be so hard for God to inspire the writer to say the earth stood still ?
The creation of the life on earth being about 6000 years ago and more...etc.
If we as Christians believe that Satan is real and has deceived the whole world and is in control of this planet, why would it be so hard to believe that he is not controlling all of the important information that is put out to the masses, especially information that would cause people to doubt the Bible?
By what authority do Christians have the right to choose not to believe some parts and believe others?
If someone says, I do not believe in a literal creation account nor Adam and eve, or perhaps some of the other above issue I mentioned, but then say I believe that Jesus is the Son of God and he did many miracles and was raised from the dead. By what reason? Because with that logic, a Christian can chose to just believe what ever he or she wants from the bible and no other Christian can say anything about it.
The Holy bible is a complete book. From the first book of genesis which describes creation to the last book of revelation which foretells the end. Reject any portion of the bible and you then reject the whole book and Christ. Christ is the word of the Bible made flesh. Most who comment on the bible have not even read it. The Bible is the best selling book of all time. No other book even comes close. You could read it over and over a 100 times and still not understand everything that it says. The Bible has a 100% track record of being correct on prophecy. Thats 100%. No other book even comes close.
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The Holy bible is a complete book. From the first book of genesis which describes creation to the last book of revelation which foretells the end. Reject any portion of the bible and you then reject the whole book and Christ. Christ is the word of the Bible made flesh. Most who comment on the bible have not even read it. The Bible is the best selling book of all time. No other book even comes close. You could read it over and over a 100 times and still not understand everything that it says. The Bible has a 100% track record of being correct on prophecy. Thats 100%. No other book even comes close.
Do you think the books in the OT were written in the order we know them? What about the NT? Why or why not?
So you can't really answer the question as to what Christ died to save humanity from. It is in the Scriptures. Look it up and post it here.
Thank you.
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He saved humanity from the place they strayed too( that far, we forgot what we had strayed from) He not only made known the Father but our true identity too. You in your unbelief cannot see this in your well thumbed bible or comprehend it.
1Ti_1:15 Faithful is the saying, and worthy of all welcome, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, foremost of whom am I."
Because of Adam's one act of disobedience all mankind were made sinners. (see Romans 5:18,19).
All mankind were made sinners due to Adam's one disobedient act which brought the dying condition in all of his offspring. (see Romans 5:12)
Because of Christ's one act of righteousness in going to the cross, all mankind will be made righteous.
Therefore all mankind are being saved from a dying, sinning condition into a living righteous condition all because of what Christ did.
No it is not. It is 66 SEPARATE books with separate viewpoints.
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From the first book of genesis which describes creation to the last book of revelation which foretells the end. Reject any portion of the bible and you then reject the whole book and Christ. Christ is the word of the Bible made flesh.
You've misunderstood the Bible to BE God, when it is but a witness to God--the same as any faithful person today can be.
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Most who comment on the bible have not even read it.
I studied it in college--and have a better grasp than those who have stuck with Sunday School.
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The Bible is the best selling book of all time. No other book even comes close. You could read it over and over a 100 times and still not understand everything that it says.
It is the best selling book AND the most misunderstood--particularly by people not versed in Greek and Latin (I am not). So to get even a glimpse of what the various authors meant one has to study the mixed viewpoints of many different scholars versed in Greek, Latin, and/or Hebrew. It's all about exegesis---understanding what Scripture meant to the people to which it was originally written--and that it wasn't written to us in 21st century America--before applying it to today's world.
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The Bible has a 100% track record of being correct on prophecy. Thats 100%. No other book even comes close.
And this is proof positive that you really haven't studied Scripture much at all. You've simply swallowed what others have told you. Try a little introspection, suspect yourself of getting it wrong (I still do after 53 years of being a believer), and don't be so quick to write off differing viewpoints.
There is no miracle window into truth--it's something we should be searching for constantly--and it should evolve from it's original understanding. People who think they have the answer stop looking for truth--and it usually leaves them stuck in their own spiritual mud.
Your unwarranted faith in the Bible is misplaced. It should be faith in Christ as the Word of God, NOT the Bible. God is NOT the author of the Bible, men are and men are fallible and flawed. When you elevate the work of men to the status of God you blaspheme God.
No, my warranted faith in the Sacred Scriptures is well founded.
We would not know all the blessings in store for the believer if we didn't have Paul's epistles. We would not know of our future allotment among the celestials. We would not know about meeting the Lord in the air. We would not know about putting off the old man and putting on immortality and incorruption if not for Paul's epistles to the churches.
You see, Mystic, God had Paul write the word of God to the churches so they would see, hear and believe that which God has in store for them. It is written for good reason. Paul's epistles are not meant for a door stop but to be read. Paul said that what he wrote truly is the word of God. Not greater than Paul are you.
No it is not. It is 66 SEPARATE books with separate viewpoints.
You've misunderstood the Bible to BE God, when it is but a witness to God--the same as any faithful person today can be.
I studied it in college--and have a better grasp than those who have stuck with Sunday School.
It is the best selling book AND the most misunderstood--particularly by people not versed in Greek and Latin (I am not). So to get even a glimpse of what the various authors meant one has to study the mixed viewpoints of many different scholars. It's all about exegesis---understanding what Scripture meant to the people to which it was originally written--and that isn't to us in 21st century America--before applying it to today's world.
And this is proof positive that you really haven't studied Scripture much at all. You've simply swallowed what others have told you. Try a little introspection, suspect yourself of getting it wrong (I still do after 53 years of being a believer), and don't be so quick to write off differing viewpoints.
There is no miracle window into truth--it's something we should be searching for constantly--and it should evolve from it's original understanding. People who think they have the answer stop looking for truth--and it usually leaves them stuck in their own spiritual mud.
Amen, Warden. The easy way out is to believe all the platitudes and "precepts and doctrines of men" instead of trying to study to show yourself approved and let the Comforter guide you to the truth God has "written in our hearts.".
The Holy bible is a complete book. From the first book of genesis which describes creation to the last book of revelation which foretells the end. Reject any portion of the bible and you then reject the whole book and Christ. Christ is the word of the Bible made flesh. Most who comment on the bible have not even read it. The Bible is the best selling book of all time. No other book even comes close. You could read it over and over a 100 times and still not understand everything that it says. The Bible has a 100% track record of being correct on prophecy. Thats 100%. No other book even comes close.
Very nice post Yabbhadou! It is so true. The Bible could be read 100's of times and still not be understood because God is the one who opens the eyes and hearts to the truths contained therein.
Act_16:14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple of the city of Thyatira, revering God, heard, whose heart the Lord opens up to heed what is spoken by Paul."
People who read the Bible should ask God to open their heart to understand what is written. Otherwise, they will think like two people here whose moniker begins with "M" and "p."
Amen, Warden. The easy way out is to believe all the platitudes and "precepts and doctrines of men" instead of trying to study to show yourself approved and let the Comforter guide you to the truth God has "written in our hearts.".
So you do believe in studying the Scriptures. Good for you Mystic.
Amen, Warden. The easy way out is to believe all the platitudes and "precepts and doctrines of men" instead of trying to study to show yourself approved and let the Comforter guide you to the truth God has "written in our hearts.".
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So you do believe in studying the Scriptures. Good for you Mystic.
Of course, but study does NOT mean blindly accept everything as true. We are to test the Spirit of eveyrthing, something you do not seem to do.
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