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Old 02-21-2016, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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"His letters [Paul] contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

1) By this above ^ God the Holy Spirit attributes Paul's letters as Scripture ... just like the OT writers.

2) There was NT ... ref the above. That was revealed by the Holy Spirit through Peter.

3) John (the last surviving Apostle) wrote about himself and the other Apostles (which btw included the Apostle Paul)
"We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us.
This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood."
So what does that say concerning those who like you and Mystic and others attacking (or by their silent approval of such) the very nature of the Bible?
We attack the idolatry displayed consistently by you and Eusebius. Making ANY object equal to the Son of God is pure, unadulterated idolatry. God hates idolatry--that is if you actually truly read what you worship as "perfect." In God's eyes there is literally nothing more sinful. The entire OT is full of God's pleadings with Israel not to worship other gods.

In the end He sent His Son, and like those husbandmen in Jesus' parable, biblliolators have killed the Son that came to them and instead taken to worship the object meant to point to Him. Oh, none of you did it intentionally. Yet you have abandoned the Spirit that Christ left you and have been subverted by the sweet whispering of the adversary who serves God by challenging the faithfulness of those claiming to be His.

Amy Grant wrote a song that should be the first and foremost goal of all Christ followers:

Turn your eyes upon Jesus
Look full in His wonderful face
And the things of Earth will grow strangely dim
In the light of His glory and grace

But you search the Scripture thinking in them you find salvation--- they point to Jesus, but none of you claim to be Christ-followers,---you claim to be "bible-believers," and over and over hold the Bible to be equal to the Son of God.

Jesus weeps.
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Old 02-21-2016, 07:16 PM
 
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We attack the idolatry displayed consistently by you and Eusebius. Making ANY object equal to the Son of God is pure, unadulterated idolatry. God hates idolatry--that is if you actually truly read what you worship as "perfect." In God's eyes there is literally nothing more sinful. The entire OT is full of God's pleadings with Israel not to worship other gods.
In the end He sent His Son, and like those husbandmen in Jesus' parable, bibliolaters have killed the Son that came to them and instead taken to worship the object meant to point to Him. Oh, none of you did it intentionally. Yet you have abandoned the Spirit that Christ left you and have been subverted by the sweet whispering of the adversary who serves God by challenging the faithfulness of those claiming to be His.
Amy Grant wrote a song that should be the first and foremost goal of all Christ followers:

Turn your eyes upon Jesus
Look full in His wonderful face
And the things of Earth will grow strangely dim
In the light of His glory and grace

But you search the Scripture thinking in them you find salvation--- they point to Jesus, but none of you claim to be Christ-followers,---you claim to be "bible-believers," and over and over hold the Bible to be equal to the Son of God.
Jesus weeps.
Wow! Powerful words, Warden!!
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Old 02-21-2016, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Paul said He completed the word of God.
Jesus said, it is finished, completed.
He had already defeated the devil.
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Old 02-21-2016, 09:13 PM
 
Location: On The Road Full Time RVing
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2Tm:3:16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:
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Old 02-21-2016, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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2Tm:3:16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:
Then, why do people come across as being self-righteous?
Have they not learned, been reproved or corrected by it?
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Old 02-21-2016, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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2Tm:3:16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:
“Love the Lord your God with all your heart
and with all your soul and with all your mind…
And…love your neighbor as yourself.
All the Law and the Prophets hang
on these two commandments.”
“So in everything, do to others
what you would have them do to you,
for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.”
Jesus
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Old 02-21-2016, 10:12 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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“Love the Lord your God with all your heart
and with all your soul and with all your mind…
And…love your neighbor as yourself.
All the Law and the Prophets hang
on these two commandments.”
“So in everything, do to others
what you would have them do to you,
for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.”
Jesus
and so Wardendresden quotes the Bible (Matthew 22:37-40) as if what .... it is equal to Jesus saying it?

Sad ... just sad.
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Old 02-21-2016, 10:25 PM
 
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2Tm:3:16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:
Profitable means USEFUL, NOT infallible or inerrant or the word of God! Inspirations are not dictation! They are human interpretations limited by the knowledge, beliefs and superstitions of the receivers of the inspirations.
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Old 02-21-2016, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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and so Wardendresden quotes the Bible (Matthew 22:37-40) as if what .... it is equal to Jesus saying it?

Sad ... just sad.
There is much sadness. You have those verses in a book. I have them in my heart---and nothing else in your book is powerful enough to overcome those two Great Commandments in my heart.
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Old 02-22-2016, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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There is much sadness. You have those verses in a book. I have them in my heart---and nothing else in your book is powerful enough to overcome those two Great Commandments in my heart.
In case you miss it AGAIN, Twin, the point is that the Spirit confirms that what is in the book here is from God.
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