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Old 06-12-2016, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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But, you don't want the truth,......
Yes I do...but it has to be true and truth is supported by verifiable evidence. You don't have such evidence.

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2 Thessalonians 2

[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
All you have to do now is show that the Bible is true....and you can't!
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Old 06-12-2016, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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2 Thessalonians 2

[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
So there you have it folks. Ol' Yahweh deliberately lies to us and causes us to be deluded.....


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That they all might be damned.....
....and then damns us for being what he causes us to be.

Ye gods! And people that think like scgraham are allowed to vote and decide the future of us all!
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Old 06-12-2016, 11:56 AM
 
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So there you have it folks. Ol' Yahweh deliberately lies to us and causes us to be deluded.....


....and then damns us for being what he causes us to be.
But, it's your own fault, so bellyache on.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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But, you don't want the truth, so why should it be revealed to you? Bellyache all you want; meanwhile, the Scriptures are fulfilled.

2 Thessalonians 2

[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
You do realize, don't you, that this can be applied to what you believe to be true?

[It] by no means, justifies your position.
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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But, it's your own fault, so bellyache on.
No...it's not our own fault if what you say is true. Go read what you wrote again.

If the Hebrew war god Yahweh deceives us so that we believe a lie...how is it our fault? If Yahweh wants to deceive us, how can we not be deceived? If Yahweh wants us to believe a lie, how can we not believe a lie?
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I mentioned bible codes one time and now I'm "tagged" with it? Too funny. It's just another witness I mentioned. I've said far more about the Tabernacle and the creation witnesses. And I haven't proclaimed myself anything, and the Tabernacle pattern shows clearly where ALL men stand in the pattern.

Just because I see it, that doesn't make ME exclusionary, but it does show that the pattern points it out clearly. Which is probably why we were told it was the PATTERN of heavenly/spiritual things in Heb. 9, because He wanted those that were seeking spiritual truth to search it out, because it's like a mirror. But since few want to see themselves as they really are, because it hurts their fleshly pride too much, the blinders stay on. Peace
The same god you worship is the one ISIS worships--a god of unbreakable codes.

Jesus came to set us free from that kind of extremism and murderous "devotion."

You CLAIM Christ, but your posts show lots of ability to twist Scripture to kill people spiritually by enslaving them as did the Pharisees. Don't worry, no one will ever mix you up with a follower of Jesus.

You say "Peace" when your heart says "Condemn."
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Old 06-12-2016, 12:32 PM
 
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The same god you worship is the one ISIS worships--a god of unbreakable codes.

Jesus came to set us free from that kind of extremism and murderous devotion.

You say "Peace" when your heart says "Condemn."
You say "Peace, peace" when there is no peace, just like the false prophets. Warning about sin, calling to repentance and faith in Jesus Christ will not condemn a person. Their sin is what will condemn a person, not the warning. And the heart of a Christian says, I love this person so much I want to share their need of forgiveness and salvation in Jesus Christ to escape condemnation.

Saying peace, peace when there is no peace, now that will lead people into a feeling of false safety, on the road to condemnation, that will come when they least expect it.

Jeremiah 6:14 They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
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Old 06-12-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Religion does not offer peace, it's being content with who you are.
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Old 06-12-2016, 01:03 PM
 
Location: USA
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Oddly enough, the Christian God is silent on this matter.

One would think that he would have weighed in by now.
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Old 06-12-2016, 01:53 PM
 
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No...it's not our own fault if what you say is true. Go read what you wrote again.

If the Hebrew war god Yahweh deceives us so that we believe a lie...how is it our fault? If Yahweh wants to deceive us, how can we not be deceived? If Yahweh wants us to believe a lie, how can we not believe a lie?
Bellyache, moan, rant, cry, kick and scream; it makes no difference.
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