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Never mind opinions where the real bible believers when we get past
Translation? Never mind logic and objective evidence as well as any love and compassion for other people, where are the blindly obedient tin soldiers we can use to support our lust for power and control in the world.
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Matthew 13:
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10 Then the disciples came and said to him, “Why do you speak to them in parables?†11 And he answered them, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For to him who has will more be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 With them indeed is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah which says:
‘You shall indeed hear but never understand,
and you shall indeed see but never perceive.
15 For this people’s heart has grown dull,
and their ears are heavy of hearing,
and their eyes they have closed,
lest they should perceive with their eyes,
and hear with their ears,
and understand with their heart,
and turn for me to heal them.’
Some are making quite a legacy as a people who use a childishly literal reading to refuse to see, hear, and understand not only the world around them but the very meaning of the Bible itself.
No I take the translation as, I don't wanna respond clearly on what I believe about the trinity in the other thread, so I indirectly comment through making another thread. Tony..tony....tony... do you work at macdonalds by the way? I've been wondering that for a while now.
No I take the translation as, I don't wanna respond clearly on what I believe about the trinity in the other thread, so I indirectly comment through making another thread. Tony..tony....tony... do you work at macdonalds by the way? I've been wondering that for a while now.
I gather from the other thread that he believes in the divinity of Jesus the way Trinitarians do but he is basically opposed to any use of the human brain to think about things because that will turn us into the devil. It is a logical extension of the way so many Christians equate sin with disobedience. Thus to be good we must unthinking blindly obedient robots.
After all, I probably don't even think the same as you about the Trinity. The historical doctrine was simply that the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct persons but only one God. The limitation to the number three was not a part of it and I cannot support such a thing. The God I believe in is not three but infinite in every way. We simply know God in these three distinct persons but it is a bit prideful to imagine our knowledge of God limits Him in any way.
After all, I probably don't even think the same as you about the Trinity. The historical doctrine was simply that the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct persons but only one God.
The complete ignorance about what constitutes a person, our consciousness (Spirit), is what accounted for this stupid separation of personhood. There is only one "person" connected by the same consciousness (Spirit).
Tony, why are you unwilling to give your opinion regarding what I have asked you twice already concerning whether dinosaurs existed? The question goes to what you posted on the thread - https://www.city-data.com/forum/chris...hn-8-31-a.html where you made the following comment.
''Only brag about Genesis 1 if 1 Timothy 6:20 is your cup of tea despite
dinosaur experts.''
''Dinosaur experts'' by the way are more commonly referred to as paleontologists, who study dinosaurs and other prehistoric life.
Tony, did these fellows exist? A simple 'yes' or 'no' will do. Answering it won't take much time away from your next list project.
What the hell is that? It's just a list of like 100 Bible verses?! How is that helpful!
For what it's worth, I do find it interesting that you talk about "real Bible believers" and then post a wall of verses. I was under the impression that actual theologians weren't fans of Bible verses, stating that the Bible wasn't meant to be read as just a verse and rather entire paragraphs and sections are required to give full context to a verse, which is generally only a few sentences as most. Thus, easy to misuse.
But whatever...
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Never mind opinions
