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Old 08-25-2016, 06:19 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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What I said was true, unless you can prove it was not. O I keep forgetting you secular fundies are not into providing evidence. You only mock what you are ignorant of.

How sad.
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Old 08-25-2016, 06:20 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Omega = 400+ posts of:

Bible good.

Secular bad.


I haven't said secular is bad, I only point out they mock what they are ignorant of and are offended or try to change the subject when anyone asks to to provided the evidence for what they say. On second thought, since mocking is bad may I have said it is bad. Maybe you think mocking is good and an adult way to act. Let me know your opinion on mocking. With my prophecy hat on, it say you will not let me know your opinion on mocking.
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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What I said was true, unless you can prove it was not. O I keep forgetting you secular fundies are not into providing evidence. You only mock what you are ignorant of.

How sad.
The irony is amazing. I could careless if you directed your BS at me. In #47, you directed at your comrade.
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:00 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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What I said was true, unless you can prove it was not. O I keep forgetting you secular fundies are not into providing evidence. You only mock what you are ignorant of.

How sad.
Hmmm..usually the one making the claim has the burden of proof?
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:34 AM
 
Location: US
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First, let’s review what Scripture teaches about Satan
“the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world†(Revelation 12:9)
“there is no truth in him ... he is a liar and the father of it†(John 8:44)
“the whole world lies in the power of the evil one†(1 John 5:19)
“the god of this world†(2 Corinthians 4:4)
“the ruler of this world†(John 12:31)
“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks
about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour†(1 Peter 5:8)

Satan has convinced the church that many Scriptures are NOT true!
Here are Scripture rebuttals to some of Satan’s lies …

LIE: You do NOT need to overcome your sinning
• “For the wages of sin is death†(Romans 6:23)
• “For if you live according to the flesh you will die†(Romans 8:13)
• “He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he will be
My son. But (… examples of sinners …) and all liars shall have their part in the lake
that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.†(Revelation 21:7-8)
• “For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption,
but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.†(Galatians 6:8)
• “For to be carnally-minded is death, but to be spiritually-minded is life and peace.â€
(Romans 8:6)
• “Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin when it is full-grown
brings forth death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.†(James 1:15-16)
• “reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men†(2 Peter 3:7)
Is “ungodly†the right term for believers who sin regularly, or shall we call them “godly�

LIE: You do NOT need to continue to repent of your sins
• “The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness,
but is longsuffering toward us (Christians), not willing that any (of us) should perish
but that all (of us) should come to repentance.†(2 Peter 3:9)
• “I am not sorry that I sent that severe letter to you, though I was sorry at first,
for I know it was painful to you for a little while. Now I am glad I sent it, not because it hurt you, but because the pain caused you to repent and change your ways. It was the kind of sorrow God wants his people to have, so you were not harmed by us in any way.
For the kind of sorrow God wants us to experience leads us away from sin and results in salvation. There’s no regret for that kind of sorrow.†(2 Corinthians 7:8-10, NLT)
• “But IF we walk in the light as He is in the light … the blood of Jesus Christ His Son
cleanses us from all sin … IF we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us
of our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.†(1 John 1:6--2:1)

LIE: You do NOT need to prove your love of Jesus by obeying His commandments
• “If you love Me, keep My commandments.†(John 14:15)
• “He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me.†(John 14:21)
• “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him,
and We will come to him and make Our home with him.†(John 14:23)
• “He who does not love Me does not keep My words …†(John 14:24)
• “He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.†(Hebrews 5:9)
• “And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.†(Hebrews 3:18-19)
Yes, “to not obey is to not believe†-- see the examples of not obeying: sinning (3:17), rebelling (3:16), hardening of the heart (3:15), not remaining faithful (3:14),
sinning (3:13), evil heart of unbelief (3:12).

LIE: You do NOT need to maintain righteousness (i.e. practice righteousness)
• “And they (Zach and Liz) were both righteous before God,
walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.†(Luke 1:6)
Notice above that even people who are NOT born-again can live righteously.
• “… let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous†(1 John 3:7)
• “… you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.†(1 John 2:29)
• “… whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him†(Acts 10:35)
• “… (slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness†(Romans 6:16)
• “In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest:
whoever does NOT practice righteousness is NOT of God†(1 John 3:10)
Notice above that “the children of the devil†do NOT practice righteousness!

LIE: You do NOT need to worry about going through the great tribulation
I have an article with 25 verses proving the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine is false.

I am being too gracious, if I give Satan all the credit for the condition of the churches!
For those in charge of the churches have been extremely lax in shepherding God’s sheep.
The reasons for their many failures might be obvious to you.

oh boy!
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:46 AM
 
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You are half right which is more than usual. God does allow Satan to lie, but he only deceives his children, not God's.
And why does G-d allow it?...
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:48 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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The irony is amazing. I could careless if you directed your BS at me.
I am not directing anything at you. I have ASK you to defend what you mocked or admit you can't. Everyone knows by now you can defend your mocking words. So have a nice day and when you mock, provide the evidence tghat supports wht you say or I will challllllenge you agvain.


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In #47, you directed at your comrade.
You are right about that. I must have misread something he/she said. I will apologize when I get a chance.
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:54 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Others here do not want good discussions they just have fun making fun of God, His word and His believers.
I apologize for lumping you with the pagans(#47). I must have misread something you said earlier.

I agree with you 110%.

Keep up the good work.
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:55 AM
 
Location: US
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I have given you my terms for continuing to discuss anything else in this thread with you. Take it or leaved it. It is obvious what you have chosen to do.

Good ole prophecy hat.
Prophecy hat?...Sounds so mature...
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Old 08-26-2016, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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What I said was true, unless you can prove it was not. O I keep forgetting you secular fundies are not into providing evidence. You only mock what you are ignorant of.

How sad.
I mock those that believe the bible is evidence of a loving supernatural being with zero evidence. What I can prove is that your God sanctions slavery, murder, rape and genocide. Unless, Satan wrote the bible. You debate like a child. The burden of proof is on you to prove Satan/God exists. You can't do this, so like a child, you demand proof they don't. What is clear is that reality is firmly on my side and that your claim is ridiculous.
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