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Old 09-15-2016, 07:46 AM
 
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Utter nonsense that denies everything Christ has revealed and taught us about the TRUE NATURE of God. Only the ridiculous barbaric beliefs about God from the OT support such a preposterous claim.
No, you refuse to accept the words of Jesus but yet claim to follow Him. Those words are from the NT.
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Old 09-15-2016, 07:50 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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When Jesus stipulated when God and Himself would love someone or gave instructions for becoming a child of God He was in so many words saying that not everyone is a child of God or loved by God.

The reason for this thread is to counter those who claim to follow Jesus but disregard His word.

Verses of reference;

"While you have the light believe in the light and you will become a child of light." John 12:36

"He who keeps the commandments he has from me is the man who loves and the man who loves me will be loved by my Father, I too shall love him and reveal myself to him." John 14:21


According to these verses does Jesus love everyone?

The purpose of this post is to counter those who do not understand "world" in Jn 3:16, to mean world.
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Old 09-15-2016, 07:51 AM
 
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Still God loves all these sinners , and He calls Himself to love them until they pass from this world, , as He has called all sinners to the promise of life ,.............. and then Jesus said from Matthew 5:44-45...``Love your enemies bless them that curse you , do good to them that hate you , and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you...That you may be the children of the Father which is in heaven , for He make the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and the unjust ........ Be you perfect , even as your Father which is in heaven perfect ``.....................
So, obviously keeping His commandments and believing in the light is loving your enemies or Jesus would be contradicting Himself.

"Your light must shine before men so they will see your good works and glorify your heavenly Father."
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Old 09-15-2016, 07:52 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Those are not my words. They are Gods word. He has decided.
The are only part of god's word. You need to use all of it to know the truth.
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Old 09-15-2016, 07:53 AM
 
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The purpose of this post is to counter those who do not understand "world" in Jn 3:16, to mean world.
Either you misunderstand or Jesus does.
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Old 09-15-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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The are only part of god's word. You need to use all of it to know the truth.
So learn the truth.

"If you continue in my word you are truly my disciple then you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

As the Father sent me so I send you."
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Old 09-15-2016, 07:03 PM
 
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So learn the truth.

"If you continue in my word you are truly my disciple then you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

As the Father sent me so I send you."
He was talking to the disciples...
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Old 09-15-2016, 07:28 PM
 
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Does God love everyone? Yes.
Then how can a God who says He loves you torture you forever in the fires of hell merely because you were raised in a faith different from His?
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Old 09-15-2016, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Then how can a God who says He loves you torture you forever in the fires of hell merely because you were raised in a faith different from His?
Because you chose to burn in hell.
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Old 09-15-2016, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Then how can a God who says He loves you torture you forever in the fires of hell merely because you were raised in a faith different from His?
A faith different from His? What does that mean? He is the one and only God, our creator.
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