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Fearing your parents is not healthy. I am simply using your words. You were whipped a lot. I am taking your words and you are now backing away from the severity of being whipped a lot.
well, you say "backing away from the severity," when my initial post is all about how physical punishment that i deserved did not turn me into a cat killer or whatever. Also, i don't recall saying that i was whipped "a lot," if i did, it was misconstrued also. I remember exactly one time getting undeserved physical punishment; the rest i had coming. And "fear of your parents is not healthy" does not mean that there is no such thing as healthy fear.
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Originally Posted by RonkonkomaNative
I imagine you did not feel joy, or happiness while being whipped. I could be wrong.
this intimates that there was some solution in the moment that would have brought me joy, when it was doing what i wanted to do that was doing that already, and whatever method employed to stop me was not going to be joyful in the moment. I'm not sure what you would do with a kid in that situation? But i angled for beatings, because the alternative was less tolerable as far as i was concerned.
I guess we'll just have to disagree. Buddy Rich was the greatest drummer of all time. Butch Miles is the greatest one still living (although he did have blood transfusions a few years ago).
As someone who played for years, including studio work, I'd have to put Alan Dawson up against anyone, even though he passed away several years ago. Yeah, Buddy Rich could power through on things and certainly had more chops than I ever could hope to have. But Alan Dawson was just the most amazing technical drummer I ever met. A drummer's drummer.
ok well all these are you explaining to me what i felt, and they are not true. You posit them as "decisions" when they were most often a complete lack of any decision. Yes, i learned fear, and i think it is ridiculous to say that fear does not have a place. I would certainly agree with you that fear should not be the primary motivator for a mature person, but there is such a thing as a "healthy fear."
1 John 4
…17In this way, love has been perfected among us, so that we may have confidence on the day of judgment; for in this world we are just like Him. 18There is no fear in love, but perfect love drives out fear, because fear involves punishment. The one who fears has not been perfected in love. 19We love because He first loved us.…
The JW organization has bluntly stated that those that read the Bible alone and don't read Watchtower literature do have a different understanding of who God is.
He is the one God, there are no other Gods but him, so the Bible tells us. But then again a lot of "Christians" have many gods, who is you current god or do you swap around fro one that suits your own ideas?
I see that these is a perception that if one has had a Blood transfusion before becoming a JW they are doomed. What you did in the past can be forgiven if true repentance is shown. Also, blood transfusions is a persons conscience choice, there are a lot of things taken into consideration.
It would be a very traumatic time for a JW to stand by the Bible principles in these cases, and it would be heartless for the elders to add disfellowshipping to the parents at the same time. OF all things, The Jws believe in the 11 commandment "Love one another". That love is very strong in the JW organisation.
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The JW organization has bluntly stated that those that read the Bible alone and don't read Watchtower literature do have a different understanding of who God is.
Not true: But the Bible does show that studying together is beneficial. It also states that were there are two or three gathered together to study and understand God's Word, Jehovah will be there.
There are many things in the Bible, written in the terminology of the day, that we might have trouble understanding by ourselves, so if other scholars are continually researching the scriptures and putting that research out in the Watchtower, is that wrong. You may as well condemn TheLancet too, while you are at it.
do you swap around fro one that suits your own ideas?
Nope.
I never even heard of swapping Gods. Sounds bizarre and kinky.....do you spend a lot of time coming up with these weird ideas or does the Watchtower Society put that stuff out?
He is the one God, there are no other Gods but him, so the Bible tells us. But then again a lot of "Christians" have many gods, who is you current god or do you swap around fro one that suits your own ideas?
There is only ONE God, but if you THINK the tyrannical very human egotist described in the OT as Jehovah is YOUR God, it is definitely NOT the ONE true God.
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