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Why do so many Christians give praise to CS Lewis if he denied the Atoning work of Jesus Christ. Isn't this supposed to be the MOST important part of the faith?
As a starting point, where exactly does Mr. Lewis deny the "atoning work of Jesus"? I.e. what book(s), chapter(s), etc. We have to be able to read his words and come to agreement that he was of that view, before taking it to the next level of commenting.
People these days say all sorts of things about other people, so it's easy to throw out something like that. We need proof though. I'm vaguely familiar with Mr. Lewis, but have never heard those allegations.
Last edited by Thoreau424; 06-30-2017 at 03:59 PM..
Originally Posted by http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mischedj/ca_lewisatone.html
We are told that Christ was killed for us, that His death has washed out our sins, and that by dying He disabled death itself. That is the formula. That is Christianity. That is what has to be believed. Any theories we build up as to how Christ's death did all this are, in my view, quite secondary: mere plans or diagrams to be left alone if they do not help us, and, even if they do help us, not to be confused with the thing itself. All the same, some of these theories are worth looking at.
It would apprat that Lewis was just not foolish enough to believe in penal substitutution.
Originally Posted by Why Did Jesus Have To Die? - C.S. Lewis Explains the Atonement
We are told that Christ was killed for us, that His death has washed out our sins, and that by dying He disabled death itself. That is the formula. That is Christianity. That is what has to be believed. Any theories we build up as to how Christ's death did all this are, in my view, quite secondary: mere plans or diagrams to be left alone if they do not help us, and, even if they do help us, not to be confused with the thing itself. All the same, some of these theories are worth looking at.
It would appear that Lewis was just not foolish enough to believe in penal substitution.
As a starting point, where exactly does Mr. Lewis deny the "atoning work of Jesus"? I.e. what book(s), chapter(s), etc. We have to be able to read his words and come to agreement that he was of that view, before taking it to the next level of commenting.
People these days say all sorts of things about other people, so it's easy to throw out something like that. We need proof though. I'm vaguely familiar with Mr. Lewis, but have never heard those allegations.
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As a starting point, where exactly does Mr. Lewis deny the "atoning work of Jesus"? I.e. what book(s), chapter(s), etc. We have to be able to read his words and come to agreement that he was of that view, before taking it to the next level of commenting.
People these days say all sorts of things about other people, so it's easy to throw out something like that. We need proof though. I'm vaguely familiar with Mr. Lewis, but have never heard those allegations.
He doesn't. This is just another failed attempt by the OP to deny traditional Christianity. Ozzy is a bomb-thrower, virtually speaking.
I've read this book many times. The entire point of this chapter is found here:
what possible point could there be in punishing an innocent person instead? None at all that I can see, if you are thinking of punishment in the police-court sense. On the other hand, if you think of a debt, there is plenty of point in a person who has some assets paying it on behalf of someone who has not.
He doesn't. This is just another failed attempt by the OP to deny traditional Christianity. Ozzy is a bomb-thrower, virtually speaking.
I've read this book many times. The entire point of this chapter is found here: what possible point could there be in punishing an innocent person instead? None at all that I can see, if you are thinking of punishment in the police-court sense. On the other hand, if you think of a debt, there is plenty of point in a person who has some assets paying it on behalf of someone who has not.
This does NOT support a punishment/payment meme. It supports a "designated hitter" meme in which Jesus does what we could NOT and saved us all from the obligation. That is why we are reconciled to God and God is not counting our sins against us. They are irrelevant to our salvation. They simply tarnish our Spirit and that requires refinement after death if we do not repent and fix things in the here and now.
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that CS Lewis believed in the miracles, including the virgin birth and resurrection, as LITERAL events, but that he didn't believe in all of the Fundamentals.
He has also prominently acknowledged George MacDonald, a very well known Universalist. My God, do you people really doubt this? I can't trust any of you.
Why don't you at least approach my question from the George MacDonald/ Universalist side of it. Does the fact that a "Christian" writer is also a universalist mean that he is now in hell for not believing in the Atonement?
He doesn't. This is just another failed attempt by the OP to deny traditional Christianity. Ozzy is a bomb-thrower, virtually speaking.
I've read this book many times. The entire point of this chapter is found here:
what possible point could there be in punishing an innocent person instead? None at all that I can see, if you are thinking of punishment in the police-court sense. On the other hand, if you think of a debt, there is plenty of point in a person who has some assets paying it on behalf of someone who has not.
Jimmie, you have now called my a Troll 3 times. "Bomb thrower" is a synonym for troll and you have done it at least 3 times now. You sounded stupid the first time, and you still sound stupid. You are upset because I asked you why you told two very disparaging stories about your father. I asked you to explain it and take as much time as you need to come with an answer. I'm not going to believe you regardless, but you can at least make an attempt.
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